• ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    It could be that, or it could also be that the Nazis copied some of this stuff from the US. They admired our treatment of black people and borrowed a lot from us.

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      2 days ago

      No, totenkopf was symbol used in XIX century by Prussian hussars. They were pretty badass so it spread a little in different forms in the region, but it only made a world career by being symbol of SS.

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        The pirate flag I posted earlier was from the XVIII century. The skull and crossbones in general was used by pirates from the XVIII century onward. In general it was used in Europe since the late middle ages, originating in Spain. The Hussars were just the first military regiment to officially use it.

        The skull of Adam at the foot of the Cross: detail from a Crucifixion by Fra Angelico, 1435

        Here is a grave in Ireland, likely from around 1730 with the symbol.

        And I’m just sticking to depictions with the left facing 1/4 turn that the SS most often used. I guess my point is that the association of the symbol with death far elipses it’s association with the SS.

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          22 hours ago

          You seem to consistently and deliberately confuse specific design used by SS with any usage of similar symbol through the ages.

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            16 hours ago

            There is no point in arguing this anymore because the tattoo that started this whole thing has been altered to a non offensive design.