• ThunderQueen@lemmy.world
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    19 hours ago

    Or we could actually work to build up our own communities and set a real workers party up. Otherwise we are at the whims of fascists and fascist lite

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      9 hours ago

      This is not realistic and only results in the fascist coming to power.

      A system that is all or nothing or first past the post mathematically results in a 2 party system as any time one side fractures, the other side wins disincentivising people from fracturing and creating only 2 groups. You can’t escape this reality, so truly, the only option forward is long slow and unfun as described, because what you’ve described is essentially what Russian backed Jill Stein is, and exactly why Russia want her to steal votes from democrats.

      The system you want can only come about after years of the boring, long, unfun stuff I described resulting in proportional representation. Anything other than proportional representation pushes any political system back down to 2 major sides and any other parties being largely irrelevant. Parliamentary systems make them slightly more relevant with coalitions and such, but still, you just can’t win the way you’ve described.