• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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    22 hours ago

    The theory of Heaven is that it’s a utopian existence because it is filled with ontologically benevolent people.

    Also, you’re dead, so all those biological functions that produce anxiety don’t exist anymore.

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      20 hours ago

      If the biological functions that produce anxiety don’t exist anymore than surely the biological functions that produce happiness and love all cease to exist as well right?

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        19 hours ago

        Mortal happiness, certainly. But Orthodox Christians consider that sinful, too.

        Shedding one is just as important as shedding the other.

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          19 hours ago

          Mortal happiness? So Immortal happiness still exists? What about Immortal anxiety? Does that exist?

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            17 hours ago

            So Immortal happiness still exists?

            Buddhists define it as an absence of craving.

            What about Immortal anxiety?

            That’s hell.

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              17 hours ago

              I’m pretty sure Buddhists aren’t really allowed in the Christian Heaven so it seems a little irrelevant. I agree a Christian Heaven does seem like hell though.

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                I’m pretty sure Buddhists aren’t really allowed in the Christian Heaven

                Prove it. Show me a Christian Heaven with no Buddhists in it.

                I agree a Christian Heaven does seem like hell though.

                A bunch of people sitting on clouds, playing harps, and vibing? Seems pretty chill to me.

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      19 hours ago

      ontologically benevolent people

      Where are these people coming from though? Surely not Earth.

      Most protestant churches do not require a believer to be perfect or benevolent to reach heaven only that they have earnest faith in God/Jesus/etc.

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        Where are these people coming from though? Surely not Earth.

        Benevolence is a human concept measures by earthlings against the behavior of other earthlings. Earth is the only place it could come from.

        Most protestant churches do not require a believer to be perfect or benevolent to reach heaven

        I mean, YMMV by sect. But they all generally hold that some aspiration towards perfection is a requirement.

        Death becomes a means of unfettering the individual from infernal constraints and self-actualizing. The rites and rituals of the faith are about pursuing perfection and pointing yourself in the correct direction.

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        17 hours ago

        It’s a vibe, to be sure.

        But it’s also a “we’ll know it when we see it” sort of thing. Folks who want to quibble about the exact definition of utopia are going to be the last to find it.