You cultivate these parasocial relationships with people online who pay you for them. Like.
You should be safe attending an event like this. And doing so doesn’t give anyone the right to you, to hurt you, or anything about you beyond what choose to share.
At the same time the entire streaming thing seems designed to prey upon lonely maladjusted weirdos, so while I’m not shocked that someone tried soemthing like this (I am shocked at how shitty the security was here), this isn’t super surprising.
The entire thing feels exploitative and gross for everyone involved, both the streamers and the people watching / paying them.
I hate to break this to you but many people who watch female streamers are not there for the games, and many streamers encourage this parasocial behavior (I don’t think emiru really does, but I don’t really watch twitch anymore). Even for male streamers I’ll see people treating donators like they’re friends and being really encouraging (only when they donate a message though). If you are one of the people who just pops in and out and watches streamers who don’t do this, then you and that streamer are not who he is talking about.
Well I read about some camgirls who found out they made more money acting like a gamrgurl. But I’m sure there’s plenty more girls who start out with the same ambition as their male counterparts. I imagine it’s super tough for them to balance on that slippery slope when it becomes your job to get as many subscribers and donations as possible. And even if they don’t choose to cater to them there’s going to be plenty of creeps, just like with ‘classic’ celebrities.
I’m not shocked by any of it. when you sleep with big companies like twitch or Microsoft or Google, expect to get treated like shit. you aren’t important to them, they don’t care about you. make them money and deal with your own problems.
time and time again, these companies clearly show how much they don’t care, yet people keep flocking to them.
At the same time the entire streaming thing seems designed to prey upon lonely maladjusted weirdos
So does a place like Hooters. They’re not specifically designed to prey on maladjusted weirdos. Their audience is older, lonely men. Not all lonely older men are maladjusted weirdos.
It’s “gross” to you because you think being single, older and a man is a red flag in and of itself. And saying it “exploits everybody” denies women agency, like opposing strip clubs or prostitution.
Don’t think the comparison is valid. While there will be creepers at hooters, they are more likely to already be social and accustomed to the norms. They’re out and about. Whereas there’s an undeniable mass of socially inept users that streaming specifically caters to. They have zero concepts of socially appropriate behaviour and interactions.
The older single man angle has nothing to do with it.
They’re out and about. Whereas there’s an undeniable mass of socially inept users that streaming specifically caters to.
Funnily enough this goes both ways. At the first streamer awards there were a lot of jokes about how many of the streamers attending needed a shower and a good number of them showed up in the same clothing they stream in, which is not really appropriate for a publicly broadcast award ceremony
I don’t know if they’re accustomed to the norms more but Hooters starts as in person encounter. It’s already a very different dynamic from lurking online amongst hundreds watching a person knowing they can’t see you.
I want to add that the Hooters girl can very easily see when it has gone too far, and can call it off when they want to.
The people you’re talking about keep amping up their para social relationship until there is no literal way for them to not snap when they come back to reality
When they realize how much money, and their literal lifespan being used.
“Like.”, as a single word sentence, especially when written or typed, conveys nothing. Inferring something about what only the word “Like” is trying to say with that one word dilutes any meaning in what was previously stated.
People use “like” in real life just as they did here all the time, and people understand them. Therefore it’s language.
That’s my point. It’s language, yes, but used stupidly. People use “like” as a one-word sentence in real life and sound dumb when they do it. Same as “just saying”. Neither convey any further meaning or elucidation of a previous point.
You’re the one that is wrong here both technically and morally.
While language certainly evolves and I wouldn’t call myself the “King of English”, as you say, I am perfectly and “morally” within my rights to opine, loudly even, that the use of “like” as a one-word sentence is (once more, with feeling) stupid and meaningless.
In the words of Charles Bronson, “Take those pearls you’re clutchin’ and shove 'em up your ass.”
You are the one who is dumb in this situation, not the people who have a slightly different dialect than you
This is not a matter of “dialect”. It’s a matter of shitty usage of words that don’t literally, metaphorically, or allegorically mean anything, in context.
I’ve been called worse than “dumb”. Your opinion of what I am in this situation means precisely dick-cheese to me. I don’t know if you’re trying to change my mind, but if you want to call me “dumb”, knock yourself out.
When you get diagnosed with cancer, I hope your doctor, with all the vocal fry they can muster, says, “So you’re, like, gonna die. Like. Just saying.”
I said what I said and I, again, am happy to die on this hill.
i’ll tell you what man i’ll do all that and your dad’s as well if you stop formatting your mundane opinions as headers to try and get people to notice you
I really hope you were referring literally to a whale penis bone. But since I’m not a whale penis bone I’m not sure how your statement makes any sense.
I’m sure that you would never use… SLANG… Like some kind of poor person or minority.
Maybe you can explain how the word dork fits Into that statement that’s consistent with your thoughts about the word “like” and the phrase “just saying”
I guess it would have been more correct to write “Like-.” since that would make it clear that it was an unfinished idea. I interpreted it both as being too exasperated to finish the thought, or as leading into the following paragraph.
You cultivate these parasocial relationships with people online who pay you for them. Like.
You should be safe attending an event like this. And doing so doesn’t give anyone the right to you, to hurt you, or anything about you beyond what choose to share.
At the same time the entire streaming thing seems designed to prey upon lonely maladjusted weirdos, so while I’m not shocked that someone tried soemthing like this (I am shocked at how shitty the security was here), this isn’t super surprising.
The entire thing feels exploitative and gross for everyone involved, both the streamers and the people watching / paying them.
Exploitation of others is the beating heart of capitalism.
No argument there.
? Watching people playing games in your spare time is “being exploited”? Do we have to play games to enjoy them?
I hate to break this to you but many people who watch female streamers are not there for the games, and many streamers encourage this parasocial behavior (I don’t think emiru really does, but I don’t really watch twitch anymore). Even for male streamers I’ll see people treating donators like they’re friends and being really encouraging (only when they donate a message though). If you are one of the people who just pops in and out and watches streamers who don’t do this, then you and that streamer are not who he is talking about.
Couldn’t have said it better myself. I also don’t like what happened but I am also not surprised. Everyone made a choice and consequences happened.
She makes money exploiting these people, promoting their fantasies. It’s fucked from both sides.
Doesn’t she just stream herself playing video games?
So you’re 11 years old? She knows exactly why man boys are watching her and it’s not for her Fortnite techniques.
Well I read about some camgirls who found out they made more money acting like a gamrgurl. But I’m sure there’s plenty more girls who start out with the same ambition as their male counterparts. I imagine it’s super tough for them to balance on that slippery slope when it becomes your job to get as many subscribers and donations as possible. And even if they don’t choose to cater to them there’s going to be plenty of creeps, just like with ‘classic’ celebrities.
“See? She’s doing it again! She’s sexually harassing me!” – Beavis
I concur.
I’m not shocked by any of it. when you sleep with big companies like twitch or Microsoft or Google, expect to get treated like shit. you aren’t important to them, they don’t care about you. make them money and deal with your own problems.
time and time again, these companies clearly show how much they don’t care, yet people keep flocking to them.
stop trusting companies…
So does a place like Hooters. They’re not specifically designed to prey on maladjusted weirdos. Their audience is older, lonely men. Not all lonely older men are maladjusted weirdos.
It’s “gross” to you because you think being single, older and a man is a red flag in and of itself. And saying it “exploits everybody” denies women agency, like opposing strip clubs or prostitution.
Don’t think the comparison is valid. While there will be creepers at hooters, they are more likely to already be social and accustomed to the norms. They’re out and about. Whereas there’s an undeniable mass of socially inept users that streaming specifically caters to. They have zero concepts of socially appropriate behaviour and interactions.
The older single man angle has nothing to do with it.
Funnily enough this goes both ways. At the first streamer awards there were a lot of jokes about how many of the streamers attending needed a shower and a good number of them showed up in the same clothing they stream in, which is not really appropriate for a publicly broadcast award ceremony
I don’t know if they’re accustomed to the norms more but Hooters starts as in person encounter. It’s already a very different dynamic from lurking online amongst hundreds watching a person knowing they can’t see you.
I want to add that the Hooters girl can very easily see when it has gone too far, and can call it off when they want to.
The people you’re talking about keep amping up their para social relationship until there is no literal way for them to not snap when they come back to reality When they realize how much money, and their literal lifespan being used.
“Like” fucking what?!
“LIKE, why the fuck would anyone think a one-word sentence with only the word ‘like’ can convey any meaning whatsoever?”
Edit: Eat my whole asshole, you down-voting vocal-frying dorks. I will always die on this hill. 🖕
Hey buddy, language rules are constructed after the fact to EXPLAIN a language, they aren’t set by the king of English to be followed.
People use “like” in real life just as they did here all the time, and people understand them. Therefore it’s language.
You’re the one that is wrong here both technically and morally.
You are the one who is dumb in this situation, not the people who have a slightly different dialect than you
I’m not your “buddy”, guy.
“Like.”, as a single word sentence, especially when written or typed, conveys nothing. Inferring something about what only the word “Like” is trying to say with that one word dilutes any meaning in what was previously stated.
That’s my point. It’s language, yes, but used stupidly. People use “like” as a one-word sentence in real life and sound dumb when they do it. Same as “just saying”. Neither convey any further meaning or elucidation of a previous point.
While language certainly evolves and I wouldn’t call myself the “King of English”, as you say, I am perfectly and “morally” within my rights to opine, loudly even, that the use of “like” as a one-word sentence is (once more, with feeling) stupid and meaningless.
In the words of Charles Bronson, “Take those pearls you’re clutchin’ and shove 'em up your ass.”
This is not a matter of “dialect”. It’s a matter of shitty usage of words that don’t literally, metaphorically, or allegorically mean anything, in context.
I’ve been called worse than “dumb”. Your opinion of what I am in this situation means precisely dick-cheese to me. I don’t know if you’re trying to change my mind, but if you want to call me “dumb”, knock yourself out.
When you get diagnosed with cancer, I hope your doctor, with all the vocal fry they can muster, says, “So you’re, like, gonna die. Like. Just saying.”
I said what I said and I, again, am happy to die on this hill.
Like.
You don’t think getting upset over “Like.” is pearl clutching?
No.
Claiming that I’m “morally” wrong over my statement that “Like.” as a single-word sentence means nothing is “pearl clutching”.
LIKE. POCKET SAND. K-CH CH CH CHAWWWW
What?
Like.
Sure.
Just pointing out that one word sentences can, and do convey meaning. Often lots of meaning.
I glommed onto that like too, but ignored it and chose not to be a dickhead. Just saying.
“Like” used as a one word sentence means nothing.
What? What are you just saying? Oh, where you referring to the things YOU ALREADY JUST SAID?
Suck my balls.
using header markdown to make your text enormous is far more obnoxious than saying like
I’ll be sure to format
more to your likingwhen you:i’ll tell you what man i’ll do all that and your dad’s as well if you stop formatting your mundane opinions as headers to try and get people to notice you
Are you incapable of inductive reasoning?
That is our word, you have, like, no right to use it
“B-B-BuT i UsEd A sOfT “K”! AlL mY dUmB fRiEnDs SaY i CaN uSe It! I hAvE a LoT oF dUmB fRiEnDs!”
I believe that’s the first honest thing you’ve said
Good one, dork. HoNeStLy. LiKe. JuSt SaYiNg…
I really hope you were referring literally to a whale penis bone. But since I’m not a whale penis bone I’m not sure how your statement makes any sense.
I’m sure that you would never use… SLANG… Like some kind of poor person or minority.
Maybe you can explain how the word dork fits Into that statement that’s consistent with your thoughts about the word “like” and the phrase “just saying”
I guess it would have been more correct to write “Like-.” since that would make it clear that it was an unfinished idea. I interpreted it both as being too exasperated to finish the thought, or as leading into the following paragraph.