A 155-millimeter shell fired during a live-fire demonstration for the 250th anniversary of the Marine Corps at Camp Pendleton on Saturday prematurely detonated, dropping fragments of the shell on a California Highway Patrol vehicle and motorcycle that were part of Vice President JD Vance’s protective detail, according to a patrol report.

No officers were hurt in the mishap, which dropped shrapnel onto the vehicles parked on a ramp to a major freeway that had been ordered closed by Gov. Gavin Newsom. The governor had objected to the plan to fire over the freeway, Interstate 5, and ordered a 17-mile stretch closed — against the guidance of military officials, who had said it was safe for it to remain open.

According to the patrol report, one officer described what sounded like pebbles hitting his motorcycle and the area around him, and two others saw a two-inch piece of shrapnel hit the hood of their patrol vehicle, leaving a small dent. The report says shrapnel was also found on the road near the motorcycle.

Mr. Newsom had warned that the Marine Corps’ plans to fire artillery shells over Interstate 5, the West Coast’s main north-south artery, could pose hazards for motorists on the stretch between Los Angeles and San Diego. The closure he ordered on Saturday caused significant backups on the portion of the interstate, which is used by approximately 80,000 people daily.


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A 155-millimeter shell fired during a live-fire demonstration for the 250th anniversary of the Marine Corps at Camp Pendleton on Saturday prematurely detonated, dropping fragments of the shell on a California Highway Patrol vehicle and motorcycle that were part of Vice President JD Vance’s protective detail, according to a patrol report.

No officers were hurt in the mishap, which dropped shrapnel onto the vehicles parked on a ramp to a major freeway that had been ordered closed by Gov. Gavin Newsom. The governor had objected to the plan to fire over the freeway, Interstate 5, and ordered a 17-mile stretch closed — against the guidance of military officials, who had said it was safe for it to remain open.

According to the patrol report, one officer described what sounded like pebbles hitting his motorcycle and the area around him, and two others saw a two-inch piece of shrapnel hit the hood of their patrol vehicle, leaving a small dent. The report says shrapnel was also found on the road near the motorcycle.

Mr. Newsom had warned that the Marine Corps’ plans to fire artillery shells over Interstate 5, the West Coast’s main north-south artery, could pose hazards for motorists on the stretch between Los Angeles and San Diego. The closure he ordered on Saturday caused significant backups on the portion of the interstate, which is used by approximately 80,000 people daily.

“We love our Marines and owe a debt of gratitude to Camp Pendleton, but next time, the vice president and the White House shouldn’t be so reckless with people’s lives for their vanity projects,” Mr. Newsom said in a statement to The New York Times.

Lt. Col. Lindsay Pirek, a spokeswoman for the First Marine Expeditionary Force at Camp Pendleton, said the Corps was aware of the report of a possible airborne detonation, and an investigation was underway.

“We are committed to determining the incident’s root cause and applying findings to future missions,” Colonel Pirek said. The statement did not provide additional detail on the munitions used during the exercise.

A spokesman for Mr. Vance declined to comment and referred reporters to the First Marine Expeditionary Force.

According to the report filed by the California Highway Patrol, the artillery round was fired at 1:46 p.m. from White’s Beach, approximately three-quarters of a mile south of Las Pulgas Road, where the highway patrol officers were parked after escorting Mr. Vance to the event.

The exercise — which the report said was expected to include the firing of approximately 60 155-millimeter shells — was terminated after the round prematurely exploded, the patrol said. Patrol officers checked the interstate for shell fragments but found none, and declared it clear before reopening it to vehicular traffic at 2:20 p.m.

The demonstration was part of a larger exercise marking the Corps’ 250th anniversary, attended by Mr. Vance and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth. A Marine spokesman accompanying reporters witnessing the exercise was pulled aside by another Marine after the initial volley was fired by M777 howitzers, then told members of the news media that the initial plan for multiple volleys had been scaled back. The spokesman, Lt. Col. Brian Coleman, noted that there had been a lengthy back and forth between officials in the days leading up to the event, but gave no further information.

The decision to fire live artillery shells from the oceanfront training area was described as unusual by an active-duty Marine artillery officer and a former Marine artillery noncommissioned officer who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they feared reprisal. Those Marines said the only howitzer training they had previously observed at Camp Pendleton had taken place at approved artillery ranges on the main side of base, east of the interstate, which they said were a much safer option for training.

A highway patrol official based in the area also described it as an “unusual and concerning situation.” Tony Coronado, the highway patrol’s border division chief, said in a statement, that “it

is highly uncommon for any live-fire or explosive training activity to occur near an active freeway.”

Such mishaps are exceedingly rare, according to an active duty Marine who has spent more than 20 years as an artillery officer. The Marine, who was not authorized to speak publicly, said that the most likely explanation for such a mishap was a fault in the projectile’s fuze — a mechanical or electromechanical device fitted to the nose of the shell that causes it to explode.

The Marines fired howitzer shells across Interstate 5 on Friday evening as a rehearsal, evidently without incident.

The Marine Corps said before the event that the exercise would occur on “approved training ranges and comport with established safety protocols” without the need to close public roads.

“All air, surface and ground movements are scripted and rehearsed in accordance with standard operating procedures and established safety checklists,” the Marines said.


… ok, I feel like I am taking crazy pills.

Too tired to cut out summarize, here’s my written attempt at… comprehending this… :

As part of a big military training excercise / publicity stunt / ‘morale booster’, Hegseth orders the Marines to fire live artillery rounds from Camp Pendleton on a trajectory that goes over I5, the busiest, main highway in California…

… and one of the shells detonates prematurely, and rains shrapnel down on JD Vance’s security detail motorcade, on I5.

After Newsom closed I5 down for safety, after being told that would be unnecessary.

Yeah.

Sure.

… why not.

Accident?

Not so subtle ‘fuck you’ from the Marines, who now have less funding than ICE, whose 250th Anniversary isn’t actually until November 10th?

???

Fucking mark this timeline zero, dude, this is over the line.

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    Deadly weapons are not toys. They are for killing, not for playing with. Anyone who doesn’t understand this should not have access to deadly weapons of any kind period. They especially should not be in command of the actual military. Back to kindergarten for anyone on the chain of command who OK’d this.

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      I wholly agree, and the craziest amount of firepower I’ve ever handled is uh …7mm, 30.06, 30-30 rifles?

      I’m trying to imagine a recreational, long distance firing range for rifles that uh, shoots over/across I5.

      For some reason, I’m having trouble picturing this.

      Hoiiii yeah, yep, this is completely unacceptable, unfortunately, the pertinent question is:

      What is anybody gonna actually do about this?

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    Mr. Newsom had warned that the Marine Corps’ plans to fire artillery shells over Interstate 5, the West Coast’s main north-south artery, could pose hazards for motorists on the stretch between Los Angeles and San Diego. The closure he ordered on Saturday caused significant backups on the portion of the interstate, which is used by approximately 80,000 people daily.

    Glad we had an adult around to make a sane decision in insane circumstances.

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      I’m just imagining Vance touching up his guyliner in an armored limo, explosion overhead, shrapnel bouncing off the car, Vance just scowls an actual comic book villain scowl, mumbles derisively.

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    I mean, you just don’t fly live artillery over a crucial highway. There are a few ways to read how this all played out, so I don’t want to rush to a conclusion. This boondoggle should at least distract from Epstein for a cycle or two.

    Among the options:

    • accident

    • intentional at the SecWar level

    • intentional at the Marine leadership level

    • intentional at the middle-management level

    • intentional at the operations level

    • some combination of the above

    Past the first two, it would be reading tea leaves to infer motivation. But the confusion is no doubt part of the fun for them.

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      You forgot the most likely explanation:

      ANTIFA!!

      (Joking aside, what causes this? Is this a common hardware failure, and no big deal? Or is this something caused by human error that people get in trouble for? It honestly doesn’t sound like a huge deal, but I know nothing about this stuff.)

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        As to your serious questions, it really could be either.

        155m shells used timed fuses, so that you can do things like… try to airburst a shell a bit over a target, or, to fire say 3 different shells, at a high arc, medium arc, low arc, all ballistically aimed at the same spot, but different travel times to hit the same target, all explode at about the same time.

        So… those fuses can go bad, malfunction.

        The process of trying to set the time of the fuse can malfunction.

        … or, one could uh, fat finger that procedure.

        Or not actually make a mistake.

        I don’t know if there is… some kind of logging/diagnostic system in the arty spgs, cannons, that ‘remembers’ what inputs were given to it like an aircraft blackbox, im not sure what actual systems/hardware fired the rounds.

        I’ve not actually worked an artillery cannon, but I have played probably more milsims than most people, and am a bit of military weapons enthusiast, from an engineering / history appreciation viewpoint.

        I could be somewhat wrong here, but I think that is all roughly accurate.

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      I’m totally on board with ACAB, but I don’t think that means they deserve friendly fire shrapnel from a event cobbled together to distract from No Kings.

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        Alternatively, if Vance was… you know, with his security detail…

        Well, he’s not exactly the kind of person that gives a shit about collateral damage, now is he?

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          It’s somewhat scary that South Park seems to be saying the quiet part aloud. Vance is basically there at the behest of Thiel and all so that when Trump eats one too many hamberders, the real work can start.

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            Yeah thats… very obviously the plan.

            Full on corporate coup, apparently masterminded by ‘Not The Antichrist’.

            I… this … reality is fanfiction at this point.

            EDIT:

            Like, at this rate, Trump will literally slip on a banana peel and then impale himself on some faux golden wall fixture, that’ll be how he goes.

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              After your edit, I’ll suggest that a Putin meetup will end up with a conference on the second floor. In a room with windows. It is left as an exercise for the reader to determine what happens next.

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                  I mean, Putin would be doing us a favour. Now, this said, Vance is worse, but … just fucking think about the protests. They’re going to make America’s sofa manufacturers great again!

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              It’s funny to me that all these Rapture-obsessed zealots didn’t come away from Revelation with “yeah, that first guy? probably going to be a bad idea.”