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    7 days ago

    They straight up tell you to not use it for math. It’s for analyzing a bunch of text you shoved into a spreadsheet, say for example customer testimonials or something. Making it work most of the time would actually be worse, because then people would be more inclined to use it instead of writing the formulas to do it right.

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        7 days ago

        No AI truly knows what it’s doing. You can give it things to call out to, but you can’t know for sure if it will use them, and definitely can’t know it will pass it the right parameters.

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            6 days ago

            How is looking at ascii values supposed to help when someone prompts it with “calculate the sum of the numbers above”? The whole point is that no matter what kind of prescreening you add to an LLM, people will write prompts which are missed by the screening.

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              How is looking at ascii values supposed to help when someone prompts it with “calculate the sum of the numbers above”?

              Because you can check if values input from the spreadsheet are non-numeric.

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                There are no values from the spreadsheet in this case. “The numbers above” are just text to the LLM.

                They could of course require that optional cell or cell range parameter after the prompt, but that would eliminate some use cases. “Generate some text”, one of the stated use cases in the help text, doesn’t reference any cells.

                Also, numbers in Excel aren’t necessarily as clear cut as you make it seem. Excel famously thinks everything is a date, and how number-y must a number be before it isn’t okay?

                Not to mention there are other things to do with numbers which don’t require arithmetic. What if someone wants to have Excel translate 34 to “thirty-four”? Or have Excel generate a poem 34 words long? Or whatever else nonsense people might try.

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                  There are no values from the spreadsheet in this case.

                  What hill are you trying to die on here? In the picture, the numbers input are clearly 1,2 and 3.

                  They could of course require that optional cell or cell range parameter after the prompt,

                  No. It is trivial to identify if the input is text or value. You don’t need an LMM to do that.

                  Excel famously thinks everything is a date

                  That’s only interpreting data entry. Date values are stored in cells as doubles.

                  Not to mention there are other things to do with numbers which don’t require arithmetic.

                  Yes these are the use cases where an LLM would add some (questionable) value.

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                    6 days ago

                    The text field says =COPILOT("sum the numbers above"). It doesn’t work that way. Excel does not have any concept of what “above” means here. Those numbers are not used in the calculation whatsoever. To reference those numbers, the field should say =COPILOT("sum the numbers in", A1:A3).

                    What the user did here was ask the LLM to generate some text based on a text prompt and no other data, and the LLM decided to answer with a string containing only digits.

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      bunch of text you shoved into a spreadsheet, say for example customer testimonials or something

      Lol more features for people abusing Excel and trying to treat it like a database