They did mention project 2025 and Nazis, to be fair, as well as specifically calling it Judaism and Christianity. I’m not sure the implication that the person you’re replying to is islamophobic is fair.
Yes it is, because comparing a muslim to project 2025 nazis simply on the basis of them being muslim is islamophobic. It also ignores the fact that most homophobia in MENA was introduced by colonialism. That trans people can transition in even theocratic muslim states like Iran and so on
I do not think the person you’re replying to was saying Islam is the same as Nazism just because it’s Islam. At all. I totally agree that Islamophobia is a big problem and it’s pervasive and insidious, and I think it’s great that you’re vigilant to it, but I just honestly don’t think this is a case of it.
There’s no reason to bring it up though. There are no indications that she is right wing whatsoever. On the contrary, she seems to be an ally to trans people.
Their holy hate books support their LGBTQ hate
I think they really believe that LGBTQ hate is inherent to all muslims, which is Islamophobic.
Ah, you know what - that quote you’ve picked out might be where we’re mostly disagreeing here. I read “their” as in meaning “religious people”, rather than Muslims specifically. The previous sentence says not to trust “religious people”, and points to Islam, Christianity, and Judaism.
If by “their”, the commenter you’re replying to is only referring to Muslims, then I yeah I think we’re looking at Islamophobia. Otherwise, I don’t.
They probably are referring to “all religious people” unfortunately that’s a common misdirect in the “rationalist” community, which has gone incredibly mask off with their islamophobia. Richard Dawkins even called himself “culturally christian” while waxing on about the superiority of western “civilization”. I sadly don’t have the time to get into it, but if you look at the story of “the amazing atheist” and Lawrence Krauss you get a good picture of how the “rationalist” community harbors deeply reactionary sentiments hiding behind “we just hate all religions equally”.
They did mention project 2025 and Nazis, to be fair, as well as specifically calling it Judaism and Christianity. I’m not sure the implication that the person you’re replying to is islamophobic is fair.
Yes it is, because comparing a muslim to project 2025 nazis simply on the basis of them being muslim is islamophobic. It also ignores the fact that most homophobia in MENA was introduced by colonialism. That trans people can transition in even theocratic muslim states like Iran and so on
I do not think the person you’re replying to was saying Islam is the same as Nazism just because it’s Islam. At all. I totally agree that Islamophobia is a big problem and it’s pervasive and insidious, and I think it’s great that you’re vigilant to it, but I just honestly don’t think this is a case of it.
There’s no reason to bring it up though. There are no indications that she is right wing whatsoever. On the contrary, she seems to be an ally to trans people.
I think they really believe that LGBTQ hate is inherent to all muslims, which is Islamophobic.
Ah, you know what - that quote you’ve picked out might be where we’re mostly disagreeing here. I read “their” as in meaning “religious people”, rather than Muslims specifically. The previous sentence says not to trust “religious people”, and points to Islam, Christianity, and Judaism.
If by “their”, the commenter you’re replying to is only referring to Muslims, then I yeah I think we’re looking at Islamophobia. Otherwise, I don’t.
They probably are referring to “all religious people” unfortunately that’s a common misdirect in the “rationalist” community, which has gone incredibly mask off with their islamophobia. Richard Dawkins even called himself “culturally christian” while waxing on about the superiority of western “civilization”. I sadly don’t have the time to get into it, but if you look at the story of “the amazing atheist” and Lawrence Krauss you get a good picture of how the “rationalist” community harbors deeply reactionary sentiments hiding behind “we just hate all religions equally”.