• plz1@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    I thought Google’s plans to kill AOSP effectively put a nail in Graphene’s coffin?

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      3 days ago

      Google has made it harder (it may kill AOSP in the long run but not yet) by delaying public release of source trees later than before. To counter that, they partnered with OEM, who in turn are partnered with Google, who are likely to get sources faster.

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        3 days ago

        I still don’t how they (and F-Droid) plan to bypass the whole de al with Google killing non-PlayStore aproved© apps, tho. GrapheneOS relies on that as well.

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          3 days ago

          Graphene doesn’t rely on any Google Services. They compile the OS themselves and don’t include those services.

          If you want it, you have to choose to install them.

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            3 days ago

            My point was that Graphene uses non Play Store software, including an app store. But what I underestand from the comments is that the prohibition of software installation relies on Google Play Services, so Graphene is on the clear with that.

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          You can install apps freely with ADB so it will work that way or simply by removing google services, from what i understood(but i may be wrong) it’s done by using google services so you need to uninstall them

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          3 days ago

          It doesn’t. There are several alternative installation sources available. On this Pixel tablet there is no Google Play originating software at all.

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            3 days ago

            That was my point, GrapheneOS relies partially on installing non Google Play originating software.

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              2 days ago

              I don’t understand your point. You can operate GOS completely without any Google sourced application or services. This how I run my tablet. My phone has Google Play sandboxed. It has no additional permissions.

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                I was confused about the app installation process. I though Android as a whole was prohibiting any installation of non Play Store apps (other than using adb), and since Graphene uses an external app store, they needed to come with a workaround.

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                  23 hours ago

                  If any such restrictions were in AOSP it would be easy to remove. But potentially AuroraStore can be affected if Google starts asking for login. I don’t use it, so I don’t care.