as this post pointed out, I was an asshole, And I took trolling too far, genocide denial or harming the community was not my intention as I was trying to find reasons to troll hexbear through my two accounts, I do not represent Dbzer0 or AN in anyway possible, and that post doesn’t represent my views at all, it was just a shitty attempt at humour that went too far, you could consider this an apology, you have every right to hate me, but if you all have the space in your hearts to forgive me, it would be much appreciated. then again it were probably be best to just ban me as it’s not what I want, but it’s probably best for the community, I have learned from my mistake but i’d never be able to live with it, like anyone else Im not perfect

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    Might be worth re-evaluating what sort of people and narratives you’re listening to if you recognize that the one post is genocide denial. I agree with the instance owner that one should take ownership of their actions, but I also very strongly believe that it’s worth outing people encouraging saying such repugnant things.

    I’d also be a little concerned that there were people (“tankies”) who pretty calmly tried to explain this to you, you seemingly ignored it, but someone from your ingroup going “this is dumb and embarassing” shocks you awake.

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        That’s a much lamer deflection than anything she said. Why not just post some racial caricatures? Why not deny the Holocaust? I promise you that would produce at least as much contempt (and probably more, due to personal proximity). I think the reason that you said one and not the other is pretty obvious, which is that you duly recognize that what I just mentioned is repugnant and inappropriate to do for the sake of “trolling” but bear no such consideration for the line that you ended up providing. I’d suggest that that’s why you offered it in such a generalized way, because when someone thinks for even a second about what you’re really saying, that you’re downplaying a massive genocidal campaign, not just owning teh Reds, then suddenly it doesn’t feel like fun and games anymore.

        Get a fucking grip. Be anti-ML all you want, I don’t care, but if you’re resorting to sounding like an actual fascist to own the tankies, you clearly lack the moral high ground you imagine yourself to have.

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        No one @ed you, you showed up here on your own lmao.

        When you want to own the tankies so bad you trip over your own feet and passively deny the murder of 27 million human beings. It would also set people off to deny the Holocaust, maybe don’t use “this will make people angry” as a metric for whether something should be said.

        Also “the real victims” as though there weren’t many different “real victims”.

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            Yeah, some ethnically-Polish dirt farmers in western Ukraine were really helping the Nazis when the OUN-B rolled up and engaged in the morally neutral act of killing them and their children.

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              I like how you asked him why he didn’t deny the Holocaust and he promptly one-upped you with “actually the victims of the Holocaust had it coming”

              It’s funny how self-described “anti-authoritarians” are always a nudge away from advocating or excusing literal genocide

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            I’m not denying it. I’m saying I don’t mind authoritarians who helped the nazis getting killed. don’t misconstrue my words and make it so passive.

            Putting aside your ahistorical view of the M-R pact, these were 27 million people who committed no crime. “They deserved it” is still genocide denial, and is in fact worse than “it didn’t happen”.

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              “why won’t people think of the nazi collaborators?”

              go make a post about me again on c/slop so I can be on your minds for a bit.

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                Something tells me that this hitlerite peace of shit wouldn’t extend this smear to British, French, or American war dead. @[email protected], if you’re reading this, please genuinely examine your position of supporting Nazi genocide. Anti-communism invariably is linked to Nazi ideology, as can be seen in the American red scare, or the treaty of alliance between Japan and the Nazis being called the “anti comintern pact”. You are a useful idiot for nazis because you can’t get over intra-left grievances from 1917 or whatever you whine about.

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                  Something tells me that this hitlerite peace of shit wouldn’t extend this smear to British, French, or American war dead.

                  Lack of object permanence means he can only remember the last non-aggression pact signed with the Nazis. Since those were signed first they couldn’t fit in his memory.