“A ceasefire is a positive first step, but must come with a future where al Palestine is free from the river to the sea.”
He never will say something like this because he’s in the pocket of the Zionist lobby, but if he said something like that and actually followed up I would be satisfied.
He won’t, because it comes with political repercussions, but what he should do is to call things by their names: that this is a bloody massacre, an extermination campaign conducted by Israel with the blessing and sponsorship of the US, while the whole fucking rest of the world was too coward to actually step in, so they looked away.
But instead of demanding accountability, he’s washing away the blood and preparing to move on like nothing happened and nobody is to blame. It’s disgusting, revolting. The tweet reply is right, Obama is probably one of the biggest disappointments of the generation.
I can’t believe they gave the guy a peace Nobel prize, they should take it back.
Edit: you genuinely couldn’t think of why people would be mad at Obama? And if you’re not one of these “critics” yourself, then where do you stand? Because it sounds like you’re sitting on the fence so hard that you have barbed wire shoved up your ass.
It’s just politicians jerking each other off for fucking us over. Don’t pay attention to it and most of all don’t respect it. It’s nothing. It’s the only way to make gold less valuable.
you genuinely couldn’t think of why people would be mad at Obama?
Of course I can, people are furious because of his soothing rhetoric in an attempt to pacify well warranted rage over obvious crime.
And if you’re not one of these “critics” yourself, then where do you stand?
I’m not ‘on the fence’ at all. My stance is that we demand accountability and concrete measures of justice rather than directing rage at inconsequential platitudes of retired politicians. Moralizing words won’t fix anything. The mixed replies my comment received illustrate what I was getting at with my initial questions quite well imho
I’m sorry you interpreted my comment as ‘defending imperialist propaganda’. I’ll remove the comment if it brings you peace. I’m also kinda confused how ‘anarchists’ got dragged into this as well
“His critics” that he seems “unable to please” are the ones against genocide, they’re pretty easy to please just don’t support genocide.
This is of course the more charitable and straightforward inerpretation of what you said. If what you meant was “he can’t please everybody” why phrase it like that and what a stupid thing to say when one side is pro and the other antigenocide and he is currently appealing to the pro-genocide crowd.
I’m kinda hearing the critique, but also can’t think of what he could say that would please the critics here
Calling it a genocide would be nice. The UN used the term. Everyone in power is scared to say it because of the legal obligations involved.
it’s so annoying when critics complain of annoying things like genocide and ethnic cleansing; ugh.
Here’s an option.
“We must end this genocide, and stopping any and all funds to Israel, coupled with heavy sanctions and the threat of war is a great start.”
Look how concise it could be.
You could make it shorter: “Bernie Sanders is right.”
This will also save a lot of work on a broad range of topics.
If we’re going that route
“Don’t be an ass”
“A ceasefire is a positive first step, but must come with a future where al Palestine is free from the river to the sea.”
He never will say something like this because he’s in the pocket of the Zionist lobby, but if he said something like that and actually followed up I would be satisfied.
@Drewfro66 At a minimum, yes. Calling for Israel to be held accountable would be nice too.
@Ging
@Miro_Collas something something international law, human rights, self determination something …
@Drewfro66 @Ging
If Palestine is free from the river to the sea there’s no Israel to hold accountable anymore
He won’t, because it comes with political repercussions, but what he should do is to call things by their names: that this is a bloody massacre, an extermination campaign conducted by Israel with the blessing and sponsorship of the US, while the whole fucking rest of the world was too coward to actually step in, so they looked away.
But instead of demanding accountability, he’s washing away the blood and preparing to move on like nothing happened and nobody is to blame. It’s disgusting, revolting. The tweet reply is right, Obama is probably one of the biggest disappointments of the generation.
I can’t believe they gave the guy a peace Nobel prize, they should take it back.
Edit: you genuinely couldn’t think of why people would be mad at Obama? And if you’re not one of these “critics” yourself, then where do you stand? Because it sounds like you’re sitting on the fence so hard that you have barbed wire shoved up your ass.
That prize means fucking nothing.
It’s just politicians jerking each other off for fucking us over. Don’t pay attention to it and most of all don’t respect it. It’s nothing. It’s the only way to make gold less valuable.
Of course I can, people are furious because of his soothing rhetoric in an attempt to pacify well warranted rage over obvious crime.
I’m not ‘on the fence’ at all. My stance is that we demand accountability and concrete measures of justice rather than directing rage at inconsequential platitudes of retired politicians. Moralizing words won’t fix anything. The mixed replies my comment received illustrate what I was getting at with my initial questions quite well imho
@Ging Maybe reconsider that “anarchist” when you’re defending imperialist propaganda with that “imperialist Obama can’t please the critics here.”
@DropBear
I’m sorry you interpreted my comment as ‘defending imperialist propaganda’. I’ll remove the comment if it brings you peace. I’m also kinda confused how ‘anarchists’ got dragged into this as well
Pretty sure they’re referring to your instance name, anarchist.nexus.
That is the SLD isn’t it. I still don’t know what they were saying about it or the concept tho
Nothing, probably.
Free Palestine.
Thank you for being probably the only one that understood my comment
Everyone understood your comment, they are the only one that agrees with it
I’m sure it seems that way to the others that don’t get it too
“His critics” that he seems “unable to please” are the ones against genocide, they’re pretty easy to please just don’t support genocide.
This is of course the more charitable and straightforward inerpretation of what you said. If what you meant was “he can’t please everybody” why phrase it like that and what a stupid thing to say when one side is pro and the other antigenocide and he is currently appealing to the pro-genocide crowd.
I’m sure it seems stupid to those that don’t get it too.
😆