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    “But, but, you see, once authoritarianism starts creeping in, and it makes some inroads, which it’s definitely making right now man.”

    The irony of Duncan Trussel saying this while wearing a Palantir hat feels like a top tier psyop. I’m not even conspiratorial but there is no conceivable world where you could be that dense.

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    Trump’s campaign promise was 10 million deportations or something like that. Did Rogan think there was 10 million criminals just out of control last year?

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      hes not even targeting the actual “illegals” not the ones working in meat plants, etc where “animal, eco activists” cant access.

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    I just don’t understand how so many people can say with a plain face “I just didn’t think he would do again exactly what he did the first time he was president.”

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        Lot’s of YouTubers play stupid, so that they get better engagement with their public, like saying some wrong things like it was a mishap gives you comments, being a bit dumbish makes people think they can outsmart you etc etc. it’s a monetary strategy. IMO.

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      I call it this as “The Voter’s Wager”, essentially they believe less bad things will happen than promised, and more good things, because people are too confident in the “politicians just say things sometimes they don’t mean”.

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        I was a little shocked that they used Project 2025 so thoroughly, I though they’d just pull a few key things and try them out at first. Instead they do like half of it in 6 months. It’s astonishing for people on both sides, it’s definitely not what we’re used to. Obama had 8 years and tons of political capital and only got a couple signature initiatives done, nothing like Trump’s dozens and dozens.

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          The wealthy are in favor of Project 2025, so there is no real opposition to it. The wealthy did not want healthcare reform, so it had to be fought for tooth and nail only to end up with a compromise of handing tax money directly to insurance companies.

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            If you don’t like Project 2025 then vote DNC. If you don’t like money in politics then vote DNC. If you want the rich taxed then vote DNC.

            Let me be really really clear: DNC are the “real opposition” you’re searching for.

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          Maybe part of it is that, as a Queer person, I’ve been keenly aware of the Heritage Foundation (and similar org.s like Focus on the Family) and following their moves since the 2000s.

          They’ve been angling for these types of societal changes for decades and, like those who were intent on overturning Roe and were willing to work for it for a near century – slowly peeling off wins until they got it –, I knew they knew this was their moment and they were going to go for all of it, whatever it took to do it.

          I thought we’d nearly buried them and all the homophobic attempts and moves I’d watched them make throughout the previous 2 decades with Obergefell v. Hodges (the Overton window had finally moved in a way that was downright surreal compared to the for-granted and implicit apathy (at best) and disdain of the 2000s and early 2010s) which made the 2024 election particularly existential.

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            If you were to guess, regarding the Heritage Foundation leaders, what do you think is the main driving forces for their relentless pursuit of the different changes? People can be fanatics and enact changes from the bottom-up, but in the last two decades there’s always been a sustained push from the top-down.

            For example, on abortion, I feel like HF leaders are looking for control of women (via increasing risk and punishment for unsanctioned sex) ofc, but my impression is that the ends are for racial purity.

            I’m sure it’s multifaceted and inter-related, but basically to what degree do they believe in what they profess for the agenda? Particularly, how much of it do you think it’s for capitalistic greed? Like do they expect standard of living to go down? What about for themselves?

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          Drumpy’s not doing those things, he’s incapable, and besides, he’s got an interior decorating thing going on with his golden office and golden ballroom… He does however, allow his dick riders and owners to do those things.

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        But that’s such a backwards way of looking at it. Can they really be that naive? I think similarly: politicians say things they don’t mean all the time.

        However I assume many of them mean the bad things but don’t mean a lot of good things. Politicians can be narcissistic, corrupt, power hungry individuals: of course they’ll promise the moon but deliver what benefits them personally or do the minimum to get themselves reelected. How can you be foolish enough to think the opposite?

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      Isn’t that with every president that gets re-elected? Man 4 more years and he can finally do the thing he promised. 200 drone stikes later: any minute now we have health care. Okay he was golfing quite a lot, but now that’s out of his system and he’s too old to fuck children, i can soon afford an egg.

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    In March was when we started seeing news of tourists, grandmas, ice cream men, and small business owners getting thrown into ICE Internment camps. In May, we started seeing kids being rounded up.

    And only now is he going, “Hey this is weird?” I can’t believe I used to listen to this dude.

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      They’re back peddling because of what happened in Utah last month. Notice how all these mouthpieces have turned it down a notch or two after MAGA’s war of vengeance failed to materialize.

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        trying to label “the boogemyman trans shooter” and it turns out kirk was pissed because AIPAC/jewish backer of his stopped giving him money because he wont stop railing on israel/with tucker carlson (whom is putins moutpiece, and putin is heavily aligned with IRAN). (CONSPIRACY) they had kirk killed.

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    The thing they were doing under Biden?

    When a republican says “criminals” they mean “brown people who aren’t filthy rich”. Which, just to be clear, does not include drug cartels or any other people typically included by the word “criminal”.

    Fuck Joe Rogan’s dumb ass and his willingness to take every republican propaganda statement at face value.

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    I always thought he was a dumb media whore, but it turns out that he’s stupid for free.

    ~This post is not meant to disparage sex workers, who actually take care of their community~

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      I don’t think you can deplatform people who are being injected with cash by the richest people in the world. Best folks can do is expose where their money’s coming from.

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    Ignorance of the law isn’t a defense, ignorance of obvious reality shouldn’t be either. He’s complicit and he knows it.

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    It must be hard to be stupid. Things happening all around you all the time that you don’t understand.

    Raised in a strictly authoritarian environment where critical thinking is shunned.

    The world must seem so confusing to these people.

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    Yeah Joe, you and 100 million other idiots.

    Actually no, this is deliberate mass ignorance. The GOP has openly advocated hunting minorities for a while now, and used the word criminal like an insult, not a statement of fact.

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      Some people, probably most, are that ignorant. My wife is a legal, brown immigrant, fighting for her 10-year visa, which should be a rubber stamp by now.

      She had no clue. “They’re only taking criminals.” Hell, the immigration office told her not to worry about what she’s seeing on the news. And low-level government workers like that aren’t exactly parroting MAGA talking points. They just want to do their fucking job and go home.

      And it’s true! The odds of ICE snatching her are slim, especially since I haven’t seen any around here and there’s no ICE office in the region. The odds are slim for everyone, but they’re ramping up fast and I’ve got a solid education in 20th century history. I know what’s coming.

      Took me some time to make her realize this is a real threat to her. I don’t want to scare the shit out of the woman, but I’m nowhere outside the house, especially with her, unarmed.

      My man, over half of Americans read at best on a 6th-grade level. How informed do you expect them to be?

      One other thing, you’re right, most undocumented aliens are in violation of civil law, not criminal. Read up on it a bit, IANAL, but you generally have to be purposefully fucking up for your border crossing to be a criminal offense.

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        First of all, good on you and your wife. Seriously.

        My man, over half of Americans read at best on a 6th-grade level. How informed do you expect them to be?

        I’m not your man.

        But I have difficulty buying the “honestly clueless” argument; after all, this has been going on for 10 years now and it never took a rocket scienctist to see what this man is about. Maybe there’s a choice to only watch Faux News? That would be part of what I mean by deliberate ignorance.

        One other thing, you’re right, most undocumented aliens are in violation of civil law, not criminal. Read up on it a bit, IANAL

        Yeah, the USA’s immigration legislation is seriously fucked up.

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      he said that hispanics are genetically criminal
      but trump talks so much gibberish it’s impossible to listen to all of it.
      conservative media leaves out the most horrible stuff while leftist media focuses on it….
      it just shows rogan only consumes news from one side.

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    I’ll never understand the masses of idiots, how they could be such fans of a guy like this. Go ahead and do a bunch of drugs and think you are figuring out the world, but maybe instead of broadcasting a bunch of half baked conspiracy theories, just keep it to yourself.