The Swedish activist Greta Thunberg has been detained by Israel and reportedly maltreated by her Israeli captors after she was kidnapped, along with hundreds of other activists, from Gaza’s territorial waters on Friday.
You not wanting to understand what we’re telling you does not make us the morons.
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In the sense that the government can’t seize your shit […] that doesn’t mean we can’t tax the shit out of billionaires
Doesn’t it? Where do you draw the line between taxes and government seizure, especially in the context of capital owners? Also, wouldn’t it be far more effective for the government to simply own the means of production and operate at the behest of the people? Does taxing capitalists more while still allowing them to have full control over the means of production - which they’ll use to influence the people and government in their favor - not simply set up the same situation we find ourselves in now, just some amount of time down the road?
I would say it does set that up (in fact it has in the past, just look at what was in the new deal and how it’s been eroded since it was signed. Assuming you’re familiar with US history…), and that is why liberalism is incompatible with anti-capitalism.
No, liberalism means INDEPENDENT of the economic system I believe in personal liberty. Billionaires shitting on everything INTERFERES with my and my peoples personal liberty therefore it must be destroyed
So which neoliberal dems are referring to themselves as liberals? No, it is a derrogatory perjative to both the nazis and the leftists at this point, by design. Most of the dems are going to claim to be either progressive or conservative
lol that’s not what I’m referring to. What they call themselves doesn’t matter, what matters is whether their policies/laws and/or philosophy/ideology align with neoliberal principals. In other words; we only care about the material reality of the matter. This is because Marxists follow a framework called dialectical materialism.
Words, especially those which a politician or lawmaker uses to market themselves to the public, are not material. They can’t be measured in any meaningful way and they don’t necessarily reflect reality. (You can, however, measure the material indications and effects of those words if you’re inclined to do so, but that’s besides my point.)
You not wanting to understand what we’re telling you does not make us the morons.
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Doesn’t it? Where do you draw the line between taxes and government seizure, especially in the context of capital owners? Also, wouldn’t it be far more effective for the government to simply own the means of production and operate at the behest of the people? Does taxing capitalists more while still allowing them to have full control over the means of production - which they’ll use to influence the people and government in their favor - not simply set up the same situation we find ourselves in now, just some amount of time down the road?
I would say it does set that up (in fact it has in the past, just look at what was in the new deal and how it’s been eroded since it was signed. Assuming you’re familiar with US history…), and that is why liberalism is incompatible with anti-capitalism.
No, liberalism means INDEPENDENT of the economic system I believe in personal liberty. Billionaires shitting on everything INTERFERES with my and my peoples personal liberty therefore it must be destroyed
You basically want the government to only intervene in your life or people’s life in ways you agree with.
If you want to call yourself a liberal, you are a pretty piss poor one.
Yes I would prefer the government to protect my rights not actively attack them. If that makes me “a pIsS Poor LiBeRaL” then so be it
You might feel that way, but committed ideological liberals would strongly disagree with you.
And those liberals are who?.. JohnTravolta.gif
Oh you know, only the ones making the laws.
So which neoliberal dems are referring to themselves as liberals? No, it is a derrogatory perjative to both the nazis and the leftists at this point, by design. Most of the dems are going to claim to be either progressive or conservative
lol that’s not what I’m referring to. What they call themselves doesn’t matter, what matters is whether their policies/laws and/or philosophy/ideology align with neoliberal principals. In other words; we only care about the material reality of the matter. This is because Marxists follow a framework called dialectical materialism.
Words, especially those which a politician or lawmaker uses to market themselves to the public, are not material. They can’t be measured in any meaningful way and they don’t necessarily reflect reality. (You can, however, measure the material indications and effects of those words if you’re inclined to do so, but that’s besides my point.)