Did you forget that the industrial revolution happened or something? How the fuck is anybody gonna make a living if they can’t live near where all the workplaces are???
And jobs by necessity also exist outside cities. Do you think everyone just drives to the nearest city for their Dr, for groceries, for food? Come on now.
Perfect, you’ve now successfully created a car-dependent society. Deaths by auto accident have skyrocketed, your people are constantly road-raging for some unforeseen reason, and your air quality sucks. But muh freedumbs.
And? I just described the current situation. I made no comments on whether it’s good, bad, etc. Person asked, I answered.
Acting like there isn’t a solution is stupid. The solution has a bunch of problems, but so does starving to death. I wish we had better options, but you can’t enact change on a system until you’ve secured your own survival.
Some people can, but if you tried to get a majority of the population to it’d be a disaster. You’d run out of jobs, have roads taking up a ridiculous amount of space, crippling traffic, social isolation from being unable to see others easily (already a thing in suburban and rural areas), and ecological disaster.
I think you overestimate the population of cities outside of the major ones like NYC, and the issues of less developed areas. Yeah, it’s not as efficient as cities and is ultimately killing our planet. High density housing and public transit is absolutely the best way forward. But in order for me to work towards good, I need to survive in the reality that currently exists.
All I was saying was that it’s not impossible to find a job and survive outside a city.
I’ve probably got some neurospicy shit causing it (diagnosed with ADHD, “soft” diagnosed with high functioning autism spectrum something from when I lived with a retired diagnostician for a few months, but nothing truly official): I have issues when people act like something they don’t want to do is just impossible. You refuse to do it on principal, or for other reasons, fine. But don’t say somthing so ridiculously false.
I mean they kind of do, the current world population is about 8 billion people and the land area of earth is about 150 billion square meters. If everyone lived on their own land, ignoring that some land is uninhabitable, that would mean only about 19 square meters of space per person. And keep in mind that is leaving no room for public spaces, businesses, roads, railroads, etc
no one needs to live in cities
God it’s so depressing knowing that people like you vote and make decisions that effect others.
I don’t live in an overpopulated megacity
Did you forget that the industrial revolution happened or something? How the fuck is anybody gonna make a living if they can’t live near where all the workplaces are???
Car.
And jobs by necessity also exist outside cities. Do you think everyone just drives to the nearest city for their Dr, for groceries, for food? Come on now.
Lol saying come on now like a you made a good point
Perfect, you’ve now successfully created a car-dependent society. Deaths by auto accident have skyrocketed, your people are constantly road-raging for some unforeseen reason, and your air quality sucks. But muh freedumbs.
And? I just described the current situation. I made no comments on whether it’s good, bad, etc. Person asked, I answered.
Acting like there isn’t a solution is stupid. The solution has a bunch of problems, but so does starving to death. I wish we had better options, but you can’t enact change on a system until you’ve secured your own survival.
The solution you mention includes millions starving to death.
Owning a car does not secure your survival, quite the opposite effect in most cases actually.
We just start the nuclear wars, and may the odds be ever in your favor.
Really, I don’t see another solution that does not include AI taking over, and colonizing other planets.
Some people can, but if you tried to get a majority of the population to it’d be a disaster. You’d run out of jobs, have roads taking up a ridiculous amount of space, crippling traffic, social isolation from being unable to see others easily (already a thing in suburban and rural areas), and ecological disaster.
Most people have to live in cities.
I think you overestimate the population of cities outside of the major ones like NYC, and the issues of less developed areas. Yeah, it’s not as efficient as cities and is ultimately killing our planet. High density housing and public transit is absolutely the best way forward. But in order for me to work towards good, I need to survive in the reality that currently exists.
All I was saying was that it’s not impossible to find a job and survive outside a city.
I’ve probably got some neurospicy shit causing it (diagnosed with ADHD, “soft” diagnosed with high functioning autism spectrum something from when I lived with a retired diagnostician for a few months, but nothing truly official): I have issues when people act like something they don’t want to do is just impossible. You refuse to do it on principal, or for other reasons, fine. But don’t say somthing so ridiculously false.
I mean they kind of do, the current world population is about 8 billion people and the land area of earth is about 150 billion square meters. If everyone lived on their own land, ignoring that some land is uninhabitable, that would mean only about 19 square meters of space per person. And keep in mind that is leaving no room for public spaces, businesses, roads, railroads, etc