The funniest thing about this is that, according to a Gnome dev, they decided to not create APIs or anything and keep relying on extensions to monkey-patch code into the gnome-shell process to ensure “developer freedom”.
It’s completely mad. I uninstalled Gnome after it crashed on me multiple times, taking either my work or (once) my game process with it.
On KDE at least IF the shell crashes it doesn’t cause all my programs to become unavailable too, I can save whatever I was doing. Its UI/UX is arguably a mess, but at least it god damn works reliably and doesn’t come as barren wasteland with missing base features. I would love to love Gnome, but god damn it hell no.
So if I want various things in fedora 42, but I have to refrain because my favorite extension hasn’t been ported from fedora 41. I didn’t use gnome largely because I got tired of keeping up with the extension mess.
Not all of us are trying to micromanage every little piece of software independentlly.
Or I just pick a solution that lets me customize as I like and supports it in a way I can feel confident about taking updates without worry. So Plasma desktop it is
Gnome is not gods gift to desktop users that I feel I must accommodate, it’s a competent implementation that is just too set in their ways .
Yes the volunteer software authors should work to the beat of the drum of the baying and braying users who insist on using cutting edge software before its wider ecosystem has adapted to its novelties. A very good point.
No, either gnome should actually support a lot of these things people are such with extensions for it or at least provide some semblance of compatibility if they are so insistent that extensions are the only way to get some of these customizations.
It’s just odd to simultaneously praise extensions as the way for users to get what they want while undermining them every release.
Wrong on all counts. the voluntary software authors actually go out of their way to spite users, extension developers and sysadmins by constantly trying to redefine what is a standard UX.
If you want to update your software broadly, it’s a pain in the ass if you need to try to hold gnome and only gnome back.
And many of those extensions get abandoned after the authors get tired of the treadmill of having to redo stuff they already did.
The funniest thing about this is that, according to a Gnome dev, they decided to not create APIs or anything and keep relying on extensions to monkey-patch code into the gnome-shell process to ensure “developer freedom”.
It’s completely mad. I uninstalled Gnome after it crashed on me multiple times, taking either my work or (once) my game process with it.
On KDE at least IF the shell crashes it doesn’t cause all my programs to become unavailable too, I can save whatever I was doing. Its UI/UX is arguably a mess, but at least it god damn works reliably and doesn’t come as barren wasteland with missing base features. I would love to love Gnome, but god damn it hell no.
Shouldn’t that only apply if the other software depends on the new functionality in the updated gnome?
So if I want various things in fedora 42, but I have to refrain because my favorite extension hasn’t been ported from fedora 41. I didn’t use gnome largely because I got tired of keeping up with the extension mess.
Not all of us are trying to micromanage every little piece of software independentlly.
Pinning the version of one package doesn’t constitute “micromanage every little piece of software independentlly”.
No need to get hyperbolic.
If you’re not willing to take even a small action to customize your system, then you should just take what you get and don’t throw a fit.
Or I just pick a solution that lets me customize as I like and supports it in a way I can feel confident about taking updates without worry. So Plasma desktop it is
Gnome is not gods gift to desktop users that I feel I must accommodate, it’s a competent implementation that is just too set in their ways .
👍 I agree with that and personally use Plasma currently, though have mained gnome in the past.
Yes the volunteer software authors should work to the beat of the drum of the baying and braying users who insist on using cutting edge software before its wider ecosystem has adapted to its novelties. A very good point.
No, either gnome should actually support a lot of these things people are such with extensions for it or at least provide some semblance of compatibility if they are so insistent that extensions are the only way to get some of these customizations.
It’s just odd to simultaneously praise extensions as the way for users to get what they want while undermining them every release.
Wrong on all counts. the voluntary software authors actually go out of their way to spite users, extension developers and sysadmins by constantly trying to redefine what is a standard UX.