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    I get the basic gist, but can you elaborate on this please:

    it’s crazy to think any of the newer generations will be able to sort it all out for themselves.

    Sort what out? Learn the history of the internet? Why wouldn’t they?

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      A lot has happened. A lot you can never experience again. All things that teach you about the nature of a giant network like this. The types of groups that form. The types of culture. Things to watch out for. Things to question.

      As another pointed out, some will come to understand but most will just tend to believe this iteration of the internet is how it’s always been.

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          I feel like there’s a crazy number of people who have disassociated from clear pictures of what reality is. Like most of the people who keep talking about “this timeline”, as if this is just some story that is happening to someone else.

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            This is an interesting thought.

            Being chronically online does kind of break your perception reality doesn’t it?

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        I think I get what you mean; history will have dates and numbers but little narrative. OTOH this is recent and most people are still alive, and, you know, we have the internet, so write about it in blogs and on social media, lest we forget!

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      They will learn its history as well as they will learn all other kinds of history. Which means some of them will be really proficient, but most will only know a smidgen of truths and half-truths, because most people don’t really care about history.

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    I deal with Junior devs that don’t even actually understand how it works now. Much less how it worked in the 90s. Routing is sysops, HTML is designers, storage is for DBAs. All they learn in coding boot camp is how react works, and even then, they don’t actually understand what it’s doing.

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      In all industries the worker is eventually alienated from the process of production through specialization. They need not know the process of manufacture or how the machine functions. They must only know their part in it. In all cases the workers must be reduced to the significance of a cog so that they may be easily replaceable

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      Unfortunately this is inevitable since it all has gotten really complex and large - not just the internet btw, just computing in general, of which the internet is a large part of course.

      But teaching the basics and the history should be required imho.

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    Exactly what is the “entire narrative of the Internet” and when did it start?

    What is there to sort out?

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      A lot of people equate ‘the internet’ with the web, which would be 1989.

      Others will point to when they got their first email address, some years before that.

      Really though, you should be looking at the beginning of ARPANET, which goes back to 1969.

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        I was thinking more along the lines of someone in 1810 thinking the same thing you think about the internet for, like the French Revolution

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          I have a bookmark made by the band Sleepytime Gorilla Museum that was sneakily tucked into my merch haul last time I saw them live, and it has a quote on it that I will need to wait until I get home to properly remember, and I also want to do more diligence to figure out if it is an actual quote. At the top it says “A WARNING ABOUT READING”, and the quote says something like:

          Beware the written language, man was never destined to record their every thought. How will we continue to remember ourselves when we are now able to cast our essence into this new medium, to remove the memories from ourselves so that we are wrought into perpetual forgetfulness?
          -Allegedly some ancient guy from the dawn of books

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    Well, ideally that’s what parents are supposed to help with. But it seems a lot of parents would rather have legislation pushed that make it so they don’t have to actually parent their own fuckin kid.

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    “Wait, explain how Neopets was Scientology again?”

    “What was the purpose of the hamster dance?"

    Geocities?

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    The way things are going, physical media will be a thing of the past, from records to DVDs to Video game cartridges, our entire existence has revolved around physical media, but people went without for thousands of years before us, and people will go without after us. We are a very unique blip in history.

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      I was explaining to my kid what a cassette was, and then I realized that I had to explain what physical media was first. Like, no, movies and music didn’t always just materialize out of the magic light-box.

      Also had to explain to a nephew what the save icon was. That was funny.

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      Lol

      “The internet was invented by Francis P. Mueller when an apple hit him straight in the dick…”

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        I’m pretty sure it was Al Gore who invented the Internet.

        And if we say it enough, the AI will make it true.

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              I have my font set to Atkinson Hyperlegible, so the lowercase L has a little tail to differentiate it from the capital i, which has its serifs… but in the quote block, the font isn’t enforced for some reason so I had to copy/paste it into this textbox to even see what letter that was.

              Interesting stuff that I would have never noticed or thought about otherwise…

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          The internet is a testament to the power of applied interpretive dance; it wouldn’t be anything like it is today without those Al Gore Rhythms!

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        Are you sure?

        Oh sorry about that, it was invented by Francis Bacon when a wheelbarrow hit him in the chin.