Quibble all you want about whether it is a genocide or not, but the abuse of Uyghurs by the Chinese government is in no way a hoax. It is institutionalized oppression of the highest order.
Re-read that article then. No one is making claims of deaths. Even the west has softened it to “abuses.” What deaths is your article claiming?
And those “abuses” were putting them in detention while they were de-radicalized, and your article acknowledges that they’ve now been dismantled, because again they were largely successful.
The AP has a long history of manufacturing consent in coordination with western propagandists. They’re helping sell the Israeli genocide as we speak.
Reread the definition of genocide because it isn’t restricted to deaths. Forcibly sterilizing people and destruction of culture are also included in genocide. That being said, deaths have occurred in the camps through malnutrition, unsanitary conditions, withheld medical care, and violence (beatings).
The facts are that China imprisoned more than a million people from a specific ethnic group in concentration camps without due process. Treatment in these camps included forced labor, family separation, and indoctrination. There are multiple reports of forced abortions, forced sterilization, forced birth control, rape, and torture.
Again, re-read your link. They aren’t forcing cultural appropriation either. They deradicalized them, re-integrated them into Chinese society, and dismantled the camps.
It’s obvious you’re really concerned about the loss of a western destabilization force, and not the actual Uyghurs, because you have no objections to the intelligence agencies radicalizing them in the first place. But it’s oh so offensive to you that they were rehabilitated.
The UN did not accuse China. Michelle Bachelet did. This is a common problem with these UN human rights abuse claims, where a single political appointee makes a claim, and the propagandists spread it as having full UN backing. They did the same thing to spread the sexual violence hoax for the Israeli Oct 7th propaganda. It’s not even the first time they’ve done this with the Uyghurs:
I’m not saying to trust China. I’m saying to trust the trusted third parties who have investigated it. Really were so far past the hoax at this point, you can even trust the state propagandists who’ve already admitted they didn’t have the evidence they claimed.
Right now, you’re trusting decade old claims from intelligence agencies, who aren’t even still pushing those narratives you’re clinging to, and who were exposed as radicalizing the Uyghurs to destabilize the region (as they’ve done countless other times this past century).
Looks like the mods in here really don’t want y’all to know that the Uyghur “genocide” was a western hoax.
https://law.stanford.edu/press/state-department-lawyers-concluded-insufficient-evidence-to-prove-genocide-in-china/
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202311/1301268.shtml
Quibble all you want about whether it is a genocide or not, but the abuse of Uyghurs by the Chinese government is in no way a hoax. It is institutionalized oppression of the highest order.
https://www.dol.gov/agencies/ilab/against-their-will-the-situation-in-xinjiang
Do you have a reputable source? A US government agency’s info is as reputable as Israel’s info on Gaza. They’re the main ones crafting the bullshit.
https://apnews.com/article/europe-religion-china-genocides-xi-jinping-9f20b0f7a77b1071ad32c81241678f3b
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/1/2/china-targets-friendly-media-diplomats-to-tell-story-of-xinjiang
AP has been selling the genocide in Gaza for Israel, and is not credible. Your second link is backing up my version.
‘“The genocide is still happening but it is just much more covert now,” Turdush said.’
That is a direct quote from the article you say backs up your version, so I’m glad you agree with me that China is committing genocide.
Also, the AP is the most reliable news source on the planet.
Re-read that article then. No one is making claims of deaths. Even the west has softened it to “abuses.” What deaths is your article claiming?
And those “abuses” were putting them in detention while they were de-radicalized, and your article acknowledges that they’ve now been dismantled, because again they were largely successful.
The AP has a long history of manufacturing consent in coordination with western propagandists. They’re helping sell the Israeli genocide as we speak.
Reread the definition of genocide because it isn’t restricted to deaths. Forcibly sterilizing people and destruction of culture are also included in genocide. That being said, deaths have occurred in the camps through malnutrition, unsanitary conditions, withheld medical care, and violence (beatings).
https://web.archive.org/web/20250106020345/https://www.hrw.org/report/2021/04/19/break-their-lineage-break-their-roots/chinas-crimes-against-humanity-targeting
The facts are that China imprisoned more than a million people from a specific ethnic group in concentration camps without due process. Treatment in these camps included forced labor, family separation, and indoctrination. There are multiple reports of forced abortions, forced sterilization, forced birth control, rape, and torture.
As a result of family separation and forced birth control, the birth rate of Uyghur areas of China fell 60%.
Claiming the AP is selling Israeli genocide is a blatant lie.
https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-genocide-accusations-e6996472084cba5618e430d143f4b8d4
Again, re-read your link. They aren’t forcing cultural appropriation either. They deradicalized them, re-integrated them into Chinese society, and dismantled the camps.
It’s obvious you’re really concerned about the loss of a western destabilization force, and not the actual Uyghurs, because you have no objections to the intelligence agencies radicalizing them in the first place. But it’s oh so offensive to you that they were rehabilitated.
AP caught again just last night spreading hasbara, misreporting the threats the IDF was broadcasting to the flotilla.
Are we considering the UN’s report definitive then? Or did you just cherry-pick a paywalled article based on the title?
China responsible for ‘serious human rights violations’ in Xinjiang province: UN human rights report
The UN did not accuse China. Michelle Bachelet did. This is a common problem with these UN human rights abuse claims, where a single political appointee makes a claim, and the propagandists spread it as having full UN backing. They did the same thing to spread the sexual violence hoax for the Israeli Oct 7th propaganda. It’s not even the first time they’ve done this with the Uyghurs:
https://thegrayzone.com/2018/08/23/un-did-not-report-china-internment-camps-uighur-muslims/amp/
I tried to un-paywall the article you linked, and it brought up the UN report. It’s possible it was the wrong article.
Do you have an un-paywalled link? Or do I just trust it without reading it?
Why should you trust Chinese sources to tell you about a genocide in China? That’d be like trusting CNN to tell you billionaires are evil.
It’s not paywalled for me, but a lot of it is just repeating grayzone reporting.
https://thegrayzone.com/2021/10/17/uyghur-tribunal-us-government-china/amp/
I’m not saying to trust China. I’m saying to trust the trusted third parties who have investigated it. Really were so far past the hoax at this point, you can even trust the state propagandists who’ve already admitted they didn’t have the evidence they claimed.
Right now, you’re trusting decade old claims from intelligence agencies, who aren’t even still pushing those narratives you’re clinging to, and who were exposed as radicalizing the Uyghurs to destabilize the region (as they’ve done countless other times this past century).
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