• TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    3 days ago

    I love how this meme complains about pointless quarrelling while starting a quarrel with…

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    The entire left! Like come on, you’re not even practicing what you preach. You’re not asking for unity, only trying to shame people into submission like the supposed smug leftists you’re calling out.

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      3 days ago

      Actually I’m just making fun of us. Being self-concious and self-ironic can be quite helpful. But I wont start a discussion about it.

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      6 days ago

      Or left centrism xD

      E: Is left centerism in its essence just antifasicsm? What can all left people agree on? Certainly antifascism, but what are other topics we can agree on?

      E2: I mean many of us can’t even agree on this meme it seems.

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        6 days ago

        Considering the way “leftists” advocate for fascist countries posing as Communist utopia’s, I am not convinced that all of us can agree on being anti-fascist, either.

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            6 days ago

            Wanting full control in the hands of the state is still a set of beliefs aligned with the left, even if it is fascist authoritarianism.

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              If the state controls the means of production, then the workers don’t. Full stop, no matter how much Bolsheviks want to argue with you about it.

              Some people treat Left and Right as more akin to conferences that your sports team joins than actual descriptive terms for political beliefs.

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                1 day ago

                That’s because they are.

                No one understands what either one actually means, which in a way is fine, because neither side does even a reasonable job of describing a complex political beliefs. People select one to identify as the good guy, label the other the bad guy, and then dig in. I take issues with the authoritarians on both sides of this false dichotomy. Tankie, nazi, imperialist or neo-nazi, I don’t care which side of the political spectrum they believe they identify with; fascists can fun off.

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                  One means kings, one means no kings. We use the term Right to describe a set of political beliefs in which a societal elite rules and power & ideas flow from the top down. The further right you go, the smaller & more exclusive the elite gets, the steeper and stricter hierarchies get. The Left describes a set of political beliefs in which rule is shared or replaced with self rule, hierarchies are shallow or non-existent; power & ideas flow from the bottom up. The further left you go the less you’re willing to compromise on those points and the more you start to see economic power as equivalent to political power.

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      5 days ago

      Well I support raising the blade of the guillotine on the wealthy, so clearly you’re a centrist troll! /s

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      3 days ago

      None of those things are inherently left or right wing. You just don’t know what words mean.

      If you still support the system of private ownership of and control over capital/equity, where the allocation and distribution of goods/services is decided by the monetary-based markets for the goal of generating profit, you are inherently right-wing.