First off… I just wanted to again say thank you to everyone who responded to the help post that I recently made. The outpouring of support was genuinely kind of insane and I never expected it. I’m going to make a different post elsewhere on that but like… I cannot thank you enough.

But for the post itself, this is in reference to this post that I made on September 17th about Jordan Lund’s behavior as a lead moderator on Lemmy.World. His behavior beyond the realm of questionable and into active hostility and misinformation. A user commented on that post and @'d Ruud, the head admin of Lemmy.World.

Which, you know, totally fair and valid. Who would want that person reflecting the instance? Especially when a term was used about the Canadian government that Jordan wasn’t aware of and instead of asking for clarification, or doing a simple google, he just banned Canadians and doubled down repeatedly. But in that same thread, another Admin clarified they had talked to Jordan about this specific thing and told him it was unacceptable.

Yet 3 and a half hours later, Jordan reaffirms his stance and insists that his half-baked understanding of Canadian politics is correct. For the comment and then an immediate explanation of how he is both an idiot and a liar, check here.

This all happened nearly 10 days ago. The head Admin saying that he publicly doesn’t want Jordan to be the face of the instance, another Admin saying his behavior is unacceptable. What has happened? From a public perspective? Effectively nothing. The only thing that has changed is Jordan is down two communities under his moderation belt. One of those was a dead community that was never used and the other was the Community Spotlight team.

Now there’s a thousand reasons to dislike Jordans behavior but as a Canadian? His stubborn refusal of acceptance that he doesn’t know a thing and stubborn refusal to even acknowledge when someone has proven him wrong has pushed me over the edge. As far as I’m concerned, the United States declared war on Canada when it threatened to use economic force to coerce us into becoming a part of that country. So the idea of an American in control of World News who seems to subscribe to this type of American Exceptionalism? Or at least is too narcissistic to admit fault? I can’t stomach it.

But for the Admins to publicly say that they’ve told him his behavior is unacceptable but then refuse to enforce that? Even when Jordan is flaunting it in the exact same thread and ignoring everything the admins said? Either no one ever talked to Jordan to say that it was unacceptable or someone did talk to Jordan but he just doesn’t care. Evidently neither do the admins to enforce their own position on the matter. It has been nearly 10 days and if anything is being done then the movement is a breakneck glacial pace.

I can’t in good conscience ever give another second of traffic to Lemmy.World. I moved over from Startrek.Website because of a particular person way back when. One admin on the team who was a friend of mine and had encouraged me to join there when I was looking for another instance. He doesn’t even have any involvement in LW anymore and neither do pretty much anyone that I originally knew from the team. It isn’t the same site that I started on. Maybe I never paid enough attention when signing up to make a better and more informed decision, who knows.

What I do know is I’ve moved to Dbzer0. Db0 has been offering a spot on the instance for over a year at this point and after careful consideration of a variety of instances… Dbzer0 is also the one that I would probably fit best with. So if there’s anyone out there who hates me and had @[email protected] blocked, here’s your cue to block this account now too. Because with a new account comes a very small number of posts. That @[email protected] is #44 on the amount of posts made by any Lemmy account.

I’ve got some catching up to do.

To all my friends on the LW team, I love you and support you. To the admins who had a say in this? I’m just deeply disappointed. I’ve seen the speed moved on certain things. A week and a half when y’all admitted you were talking about him before I even made that post? Come on.

  • Stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
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    2 days ago

    You and me both on all of it. It’s bad enough we have a whole ass country effectively declaring war on us. Allowing Jordan to continue that type of nonsense? Nuh uh.

    As for why db0, there’s a few reasons but all of them are more personal than anything else. Like not stuff I could accurately describe to you. Also I like the name a little better to be honest

      • Stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
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        2 days ago

        Under Canada’s Westminster-style parliamentary democracy, the terms government and Government of Canada refer specifically to the prime minister, Cabinet, and other members of the governing party inside the House of Commons, but typically includes the federal public service and federal departments and agencies when used elsewhere.[7] This differs from the United States, where the executive branch is referred to as an administration and the federal government encompasses executive, legislative, and judicial powers, similar to the Canadian Crown. Source

        In Canada, a “Member of Government” (note the capitals) is a member of the ruling administration. America uses stuff like “Trump Administration” or “Obama Administration” but in Canada we just call it the “Government of Canada”. There started to be a slight drift during Harper (the Prime Minister before Trudeau) towards calling it the Harper Government but there was a large amount of pushback because the terminology “Government of Canada” is both a legal and traditional one. Calling it a specific government makes it feel dissociated from the country and not serving us.

        So when the user said that a particular elected MP was not a Member of Government, he was meaning that he wasn’t in the ruling party. This is normal and common usage in Canada. Jordan, however, was unaware of this distinction. He removed the user for misinformation. Since then he has been told he was wrong by every Canadian and by the admins themselves but refuses to back down. My guess is because he’s a narcissist who is incapable of ever admitting fault because it would shatter his pathetically fragile ego.