• John Richard@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    The not arguing in good faith goes both ways, but people on the left & right can have good faith arguments while still disagreeing. Debates aren’t about making someone else agree with you at the end. It is about challenging each other’s ideas.

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      7 days ago

      Sure. But when one side is basing there arguments on misrepresenting statistics and outright lies it’s no longer a good faith debate and they shouldn’t have a platform to continue. This goes for either side but Kirk was guilty of it and got what was coming to him

      • John Richard@lemmy.world
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        6 days ago

        It isn’t an entire side. You can’t just see people in black & white. Many of these people are like past versions of ourselves, the ones that need people to guide them. You can’t force everyone to see things from your point of view. A lot of times they just need good examples. If they aren’t arguing in good faith, then try a different strategy or call them out. Or change the discussion to how you feel they’re not being honest, and ask them why they feel the need to lie. Just be genuine but violence doesn’t solve things. It will hurt the causes you care about more than anything else right now.