• finitebanjo@piefed.world
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    4 hours ago

    Wow so I guess things really were bad in the Obama admin with all the Native American eradication campaigns.

    Definitely nothing happened between 1621 and 2008.

    /s

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      What a non-response. Pick whichever year you like, America has never lived up to its professed ideals. For example, in school we learn that the U.S. is a melting pot: “Give us your tired, your poor, your huddled masses!!”

      Except, immigrants who would now be considered White faced significant racial discrimination in the 1800s, Chinese immigrants faced racism/horrible working conditions, Obama deported more than Trump did in his first term, and now Trump is kidnapping immigrants off of the street. This country is rotten to its core.

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        4 hours ago

        TBH I didn’t really see any relevant points in your first reply worth arguing. You’re just saying children now need to suffer and die because of something people in the late 15th to 18th centuries decided to do, that nothing ever changes, ever has or ever will.

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          We shouldn’t continue to treat people like shit because our ancestors treated their ancestors like shit.

          “Blacks where enslaved and even after being released we’re never allowed to build equity and generational wealth in America and when they tried we killed them for it, but we passed the civil right s act so they really need to learn to integrate and stop doing crime and ghettos” is the dumb take we fight against today.

          But DEI is just targeted class correction which is why it triggers the racists, but what needs to happen is that class equalization needs to happen across racial, ethnic, regional, generational boundaries.

          No one (well, extremely few) does crime if they can make a good living. Stop taking away opportunities and driving people into their survival instinct.

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            You’re going to sit there and say the Civil Rights Acts were ineffective and pointless? It sounds to me like the biggest advocate against racial equality here is you.

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          4 hours ago

          On the contrary, as the contradictions become more apparent we will be forced to decide between fascism or radical systemic change. Just as the status quo of feudal surfs came to an end, so too must this current system.

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            3 hours ago

            Good luck with that. In the meantime we’ll be working towards the only successful mode of change ever practiced in the USA, and the most consistently successful method ever practiced in our species history: democratic election of representatives who promote the reforms we need to help people and save lives.