If their anarchism has never been observed in reality, in the form of action or organizing or trying to build a mass movement, is it meaningful to call them an anarchist? I guess you could call them an anarchist thinker or even anarchist poster because they probably post about it online and talk to people IRL about it?
I guess what I don’t like about the compass is it makes no real attempt to relate to actually existing political movements and the factors that determine their character, and instead does the idealist thing of pretending society is just a bunch of people with different ideas that battle on their own merits.
A Scotsman has to have some connection Scotland, its hardly a ‘No True Scotsman’ to be confused when a chinese guy declares himself a Scotsman, but also says he has no connection whatsoever to Scotland or its people, he just likes the idea of Scotland.
Sure, but this person does have a connection to Anarchism. It might not be what you want, but that doesn’t matter. You don’t get to decide.
You’re the type of person who needs to just fuck off. I don’t know if you’re an Anarchist, but all you’re doing is gatekeeping, and keeping people from coming into the movement. Someone may interact with you, decide Anarchists are a bunch of assholes who only care about titles, and then never engage further. Best case, people ignore you.
I know you’re just doing this to make yourself feel better. We all need that sometimes. Find a better outlet though.
Yes. If their anarchism drove them to adopt a puppy or eat a sandwich, that’s affecting reality. Being an anarchist and doing anarchist things has the exact same relationship as being a volunteer firefighter and actually fighting a fire. Maybe you never get to actually respond to a fire, doesn’t mean you’re not a volunteer firefighter.
Anything else is gatekeeping, although 'm sure there’s tons of “no true Scottsman” types in the anarchy camp.
wtf? A political movement doesn’t just happen at random, and hopefully there’s enough volunteer anarchists around to respond. We have to build any movement ourselves.
Why? If someone’s political ideals exist only in their head and aren’t part of any movement, organizations, or actions, how are they relevant to anything?
Yeah, any extant human influences reality in some way.
If their anarchism has never been observed in reality, in the form of action or organizing or trying to build a mass movement, is it meaningful to call them an anarchist? I guess you could call them an anarchist thinker or even anarchist poster because they probably post about it online and talk to people IRL about it?
I guess what I don’t like about the compass is it makes no real attempt to relate to actually existing political movements and the factors that determine their character, and instead does the idealist thing of pretending society is just a bunch of people with different ideas that battle on their own merits.
I’ve got something you need to read.
A Scotsman has to have some connection Scotland, its hardly a ‘No True Scotsman’ to be confused when a chinese guy declares himself a Scotsman, but also says he has no connection whatsoever to Scotland or its people, he just likes the idea of Scotland.
Sure, but this person does have a connection to Anarchism. It might not be what you want, but that doesn’t matter. You don’t get to decide.
You’re the type of person who needs to just fuck off. I don’t know if you’re an Anarchist, but all you’re doing is gatekeeping, and keeping people from coming into the movement. Someone may interact with you, decide Anarchists are a bunch of assholes who only care about titles, and then never engage further. Best case, people ignore you.
I know you’re just doing this to make yourself feel better. We all need that sometimes. Find a better outlet though.
Yes. If their anarchism drove them to adopt a puppy or eat a sandwich, that’s affecting reality. Being an anarchist and doing anarchist things has the exact same relationship as being a volunteer firefighter and actually fighting a fire. Maybe you never get to actually respond to a fire, doesn’t mean you’re not a volunteer firefighter.
Anything else is gatekeeping, although 'm sure there’s tons of “no true Scottsman” types in the anarchy camp.
wtf? A political movement doesn’t just happen at random, and hopefully there’s enough volunteer anarchists around to respond. We have to build any movement ourselves.
Your error here is thinking that political ideals must be a part of some movement, organization or group.
They don’t.
Why? If someone’s political ideals exist only in their head and aren’t part of any movement, organizations, or actions, how are they relevant to anything?
Have you not heard of voting?
You vote for anarchist candidates or are part of an organization that promotes a candidate in exchange for supporting anarchist policy?
I vote for whoever I think would best represent my ideals, yeah.