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    2 days ago

    I think we would have to define “no victim,” as a lot of things have second or third order victims that need to be considered.

    Smoking is, in and of itself, only self-victimizing, but a lot of people (especially children) have been harmed by second hand smoke.

    PCP is only self-victimizing, but it does increase your propensity to freak out and kill somebody. Should you be allowed to take PCP with the knowledge you are potentially putting the people around you at an elevated risk of you murdering them in a drug induced delusional rage?

    I agreed in broad strokes, but I think we have to consider what it means for something to have “no victims,” as most actions victimize someone to some greater or lesser extent.