Dwazoupp@lemmy.world to Progressive Politics@lemmy.world · edit-21 month agoThe Nation, oldest progressive newspaper in the US, doesn't pull any puncheswww.thenation.comexternal-linkmessage-square102fedilinkarrow-up1742arrow-down14
arrow-up1738arrow-down1external-linkThe Nation, oldest progressive newspaper in the US, doesn't pull any puncheswww.thenation.comDwazoupp@lemmy.world to Progressive Politics@lemmy.world · edit-21 month agomessage-square102fedilink
minus-squareLushed_Lungfish@lemmy.calinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up12·1 month agoI’ve seen it summed it up thusly: “If your speech incites violence, don’t be surprised when people use violence in response.”
minus-squareOccamsRazer@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up1arrow-down6·1 month agoSo I guess fights at professional sports games are justified violence, since someone probably incited it by insulting an opposing player.
minus-squarebrisk@aussie.zonelinkfedilinkarrow-up10·1 month agoYou’re confusing incitement and provocation. Incitement involves actively encouraging action. “you’re bad at hockey and your mother is large” might be provocation “It is time for us to take up arms against the enemy” is incitement
minus-squareOccamsRazer@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up2·1 month agoI think a lot of people are confused about what constitutes incitement.
minus-squaresqgl@sh.itjust.workslinkfedilinkarrow-up1·1 month agoYeah would be clearer to say “advocating for violence”.
minus-squareprole@lemmy.blahaj.zonelinkfedilinkarrow-up1·1 month agoThis is unironically true for hockey lol
I’ve seen it summed it up thusly: “If your speech incites violence, don’t be surprised when people use violence in response.”
So I guess fights at professional sports games are justified violence, since someone probably incited it by insulting an opposing player.
You’re confusing incitement and provocation.
Incitement involves actively encouraging action.
“you’re bad at hockey and your mother is large” might be provocation
“It is time for us to take up arms against the enemy” is incitement
I think a lot of people are confused about what constitutes incitement.
Yeah would be clearer to say “advocating for violence”.
This is unironically true for hockey lol