On the other, it’s the kind of shot that just might land in the fanbase of these wankstains. It attacks and smears them in terms their supporters understand. Just pointing out the hypocrisy doesn’t work if the audience doesn’t care for reasonable argument, but by speaking their language, there’s some chance it will get under their skin.
It’s a disgusting move in a disgusting fight. There are no winners here, and the best I can hope for is that it’ll hit the right people harder than the collateral damage hits the wrong ones.
Like I said, not cool, disgusting move, no winners here, just a faint hope that it’ll undermine their influential figures and weaponise their own hatred.
Idk, I was trying to find some positive spin on it, but honestly, yeah, I’m getting less and less convinced by my own reasoning there.
Nick Fuentes was caught watching gay porn after a stream and one of this followers just killed Charlie Kirk. These people do not care if their leaders do something they condemn because part of the point of this ideology is to have power over reality through the ability to lie and cheat with impunity. They don’t care, and reproducing their values uncritically in no way benefits us.
Why is insulting and getting under their skin so important? Is trolling them gonna change their mind? Are minorities literally less important than trying to make fascists feel insulted?
On a strategic level, there may be some merit to the hope of splitting them and turning them against each other. Their ideology builds on appearance of strength and masculinity, and any political movement hinges on unity. Getting under their skin about their prominent figures might weaken their support.
There is also a slim chance that pointing out the nonsense might break someone out of their cognitive dissonance (like it did with me), but I’ll concede it’s very slim indeed.
Even with all this, the question “how much collateral damage is it worth?” is a tough one. I would hope that them wasting their time and energy on each other might spare others some of their wrath, but it’s impossible to measure and hard to gauge the net effect on hurt dealt to the undeserving.
So no, just the insult wouldn’t be worth it. The potential strategic effects turn it into a weapon, but just like with physical weapons, it would be better if it never saw use. The ends may offset some of the hurt, but we shouldn’t think of it in terms of justification so much as mitigation.
And the last line is just superfluous, hurtful without any redeeming quality at all. Fuck that shit.
On one hand, yeah, not cool.
On the other, it’s the kind of shot that just might land in the fanbase of these wankstains. It attacks and smears them in terms their supporters understand. Just pointing out the hypocrisy doesn’t work if the audience doesn’t care for reasonable argument, but by speaking their language, there’s some chance it will get under their skin.
It’s a disgusting move in a disgusting fight. There are no winners here, and the best I can hope for is that it’ll hit the right people harder than the collateral damage hits the wrong ones.
Dude, Nazis aren’t going to be convinced to stop being a Nazi just because you also start acting like a Nazi. That’s actually one of their objectives.
Like I said, not cool, disgusting move, no winners here, just a faint hope that it’ll undermine their influential figures and weaponise their own hatred.
Idk, I was trying to find some positive spin on it, but honestly, yeah, I’m getting less and less convinced by my own reasoning there.
Nick Fuentes was caught watching gay porn after a stream and one of this followers just killed Charlie Kirk. These people do not care if their leaders do something they condemn because part of the point of this ideology is to have power over reality through the ability to lie and cheat with impunity. They don’t care, and reproducing their values uncritically in no way benefits us.
Why is insulting and getting under their skin so important? Is trolling them gonna change their mind? Are minorities literally less important than trying to make fascists feel insulted?
It’s not, it’s not and they’re not.
On a strategic level, there may be some merit to the hope of splitting them and turning them against each other. Their ideology builds on appearance of strength and masculinity, and any political movement hinges on unity. Getting under their skin about their prominent figures might weaken their support.
There is also a slim chance that pointing out the nonsense might break someone out of their cognitive dissonance (like it did with me), but I’ll concede it’s very slim indeed.
Even with all this, the question “how much collateral damage is it worth?” is a tough one. I would hope that them wasting their time and energy on each other might spare others some of their wrath, but it’s impossible to measure and hard to gauge the net effect on hurt dealt to the undeserving.
So no, just the insult wouldn’t be worth it. The potential strategic effects turn it into a weapon, but just like with physical weapons, it would be better if it never saw use. The ends may offset some of the hurt, but we shouldn’t think of it in terms of justification so much as mitigation.
And the last line is just superfluous, hurtful without any redeeming quality at all. Fuck that shit.
Oh i was talking about the last line only. Which is also the title of the post