The streaming star on how to reject political violence while staying honest about Kirk’s rhetoric.

  • thanks AV@lemmy.world
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    20 hours ago

    It is the reichstag fire, in that it was a nazi crime that the Nazis used to get liberals to willingly vote to grant all power to the fuhrer to protect germany. Thats what they mean right? Right???

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    24 hours ago

    “Charlie Kirk was a vehement white nationalist that is currently burning in Hell. Debate me and prove me wrong.”

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      20 hours ago

      The Heritage Foundation has been working on this for centuries.

      Honestly, if I ever believed that a malevolent alien species invaded Earth, it would have been during the 1800s and they’ve been working to terraform the planet to be habitable to them.

      All this shit going on has They Live vibes and I honestly can’t pretend to see how the idea of murdering scores of humans does anything helpful.

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    Hassan is just outrage farm and nothing else. He has been covering Israel Gaza for years, but only learned about the meaning of the Western Wall like last week. Vapid, insipid aimless people making bank off of genocide

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      Inaccurate simplification of Hassan. So much so that I assume you are just elaborately saying, “Nothing to see here folks. Go about your business.”

      Your tactics are in line with those of right wing trolls. Call into question something you want silenced with ad hominem attacks, obscure references, with just a glint of truth buried in there to make anyone arguing with you get sucked into a lengthy complicated debate. Yes, modern popular media feeds off of outrage and Hassan is part of it. That’s something I could say about virtually every popular person on the internet. It’s doesn’t mean that none of them have ever said anything relevant, accurate, or otherwise worth listening to.

      Crawl back into whatever hole you came from you disingenuous troll.

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        He streams on twitch spewing hate and farming intellectual elite club by heavy moderation.

        He fucking farms you for money.

        Crawl back into whatever hole you came from you disingenuous troll.

        Every single defense is this. Name calling and getting offended for pointing out of what Hassan is.

        A narcissist farming idiots. Just like Tate. Like Jones. Like Shapiro.

        It is the same fucking play. Different political spectrum.

        Get. Fucking. Real.

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          If you say so. I’m not a fan, but he’s been a decent debater and representative of the left in the few times I’ve heard him speak. I find anyone dismissing him wholesale to be disingenuous. He’s speaks well, makes good points, and makes right-wing idiots look like idiots. I appreciate that.

          Maybe you are like the other guy and just want him to cheerlead the Democratic Party blindly and follow their talking point? Or are you just upset because he seems to be pretty hard on Israel?

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            He is not left. He is not right.

            He is not a decent debater. He gishgallops and gaslights. Just like Shapiros. Kirks. Tates.

            He does not give a fuck. He is making money. And shoving himself into the politics.

            Get.

            Real.

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        Fucking bullshit. Hassan has a special particular type of rage bait farming. I’ve been watching his content on and off for years. It’s unfortunate that he has such a large following because he’s a disingenuous piece of shit. Also, it’s fun and easy do just discount any criticism of Hassan as “trolling”- what a cowardly copout of an answer. It’s prefertly fine to use Ad-hominem attacks on people who negate or downplay sexual abuse or say constant vitriol on his stream. I don’t care how many charity streams he did. He’s a slop streamer (just last week he doxxed several people).

        It’s weird how his fan boys enjoy this grotesque parasocial relationship with him and come to his constant defense whenever the slightest criticism is levied of our idol. Almost like another group of abhorrent individuals I see online…

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          I’m not a Hassan fanboy, or even a fan really, and I’m not having fun. You simply didn’t put any effort into your accusations. They still sound like the typical troll behavior used to silence or muddle people you don’t agree with. Try to offend, barely substantiate, if at all, your accusations and assertion, and try to engage without putting any effort into it. Be as disingenuous as possible but bait responses and keep interlocutor lost in the weeds of your half assed arguments.

          So I assume you are a troll.

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            What a joke. What am I even to say to that? Just because I didn’t get into specifics off the bat doesn’t mean we can’t bring receipts. If you want, ask. But don’t be no disgustingly superficial in your discourse. I’m exhausted hearing about this guy.

            I watched one week of Hassan

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              Hassan is just outrage farm and nothing else.

              I don’t need justification for your glint of truth. I need justification that nothing in the linked interview of Hassan is worth reading or listening to because he’s nothing more than an outrage farm.

              I actually listened to the interview. He said several things that so few people in mainstream media are willing to say, and he criticized mainstream media for not saying those things.

              Kirk advocated for gross positions. He literally stated that empathy was invented by the left. In response to the shooting, right wing politicians and pundits immediately called for retribution against the left just like they did when the democratic lawmaker was assassinated, and say nothing when it turns out it wasn’t a leftists killer. Trump never bothered did any honor the victim of that killing, but they lower flags this weekend for Kirk and don’t mention the school shooting that happened literally one hour later or the 45 prior shootings in 2025. They praised Kirk for valuing debate and free speech, but are now firing people and refusing to let in travelers if they posted negative opinions of Kirk. Rage bait, or reasonable things to talk about?

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                Yes. I’m familiar with the horrible human that is Kirk. Nothing of value was lost. He was committed to punching down everyone that wasn’t white or Christian. But one thing he was exceptionally good at is organizing.

                See, the difference between Kirk and Hassan is that Kirk was so successful at rallying right wing youth that they showed up in droves to the polls, especially in this election. We gotta appreciate the ability to mobilize so effectively.

                The only thing Hassan seems capable of is shitting on EVERYONE. Because Hassan is not solutions oriented. He is not particularly motivated at building a political movement or accomplishing anything apart from a charity drive once in a while. That’s it. He spends 80% of his stream chastising democrats. Then rallying his base day after day about Gaza but not looking towards any meaningful prescriptions. Just the other week he streamed an interview of a man who lost his son in the Nova music festival. Despite losing his child this man was calling for a ceasefire. He wasn’t a settler. He wasn’t IDF. He wants peace. The best we can get out of Hassan? He calls him Nazi scum.

                I could go on about the ineffective and meaningless content that is Hassan, but at the end of the day, it’s just superficial. And I think that’s the part that bothers me the most. He has such a massive platform and all he can do is read Twitter headlines and rage bait seven days a week. For what?

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                  The only thing Hassan seems capable of is shitting on EVERYONE. … He spends 80% of his stream chastising democrats.

                  Ah, there it is. So you want someone on the left (the actual left) to pretend like the majority of the Democratic party and it’s leadership isn’t ineffective and feckless. You’d rather blame the left for pointing it out and call their criticism worthless rage bait.

                  He has such a massive platform and all he can do is read Twitter headlines and rage bait seven days a week. For what?

                  Here we go again. The dude streams for how many hours a day, how many dayss a week, and you expect him to deliver high quality content the entire time… to modern Internet audiences…?

                  Like I said, I’m not a fan. I’ve seen a few interviews and debates he participated in. A few referenced clips of note. I remember the clips had a lot of bullshit. Inside jokes with chat, immature shit, or references to things only constantly online people would get, at least I assume. I’m aware enough to know modern shock humor and genuinely offensive comments are separated by a fine line within internet culture.

                  Just the other week he streamed an interview of a man who lost his son in the Nova music festival. Despite losing his child this man was calling for a ceasefire. He wasn’t a settler. He wasn’t IDF. He wants peace. The best we can get out of Hassan? He calls him Nazi scum.

                  Ok. He watched and interview with this person? I have no context so I can’t really comment beyond the polls coming out of Israel disturb and scare the shit out of me. Just because you are a victim of a tragedy, and aren’t a member of groups openly commiting crimes against humanity in Israel, you aren’t immediately a good person. Supporting Bibi at this point is enough to make you a pretty horrible human being.

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    22 hours ago

    Hasan is a wimpy baby who makes money on the existence of the right wing. He is to scared to rejoice in a good thing.

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      9 hours ago

      I’ve noticed that half the media freakout is mid-level political commentators coming to terms with the idea that they can also be victims.

      The fact that a lot of left commentators are realizing this along with the rightoids is a little disturbing because where have they been in the last several decades of escalating right-wing violence?

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        8 hours ago

        I think that there is a lot of fuck around and find out going on now.

        Over the past several decades people have been increasingly willing to speak their mind In public forums. I don’t think that’s necessarily a bad thing except the people who are speaking the loudest are the ones who are the craziest, racist etc. I think by allowing these people to exist we are normalizing them. And by doing so they start to think that their opinions are OK, and that they won’t get in trouble for sharing them.

        Hopefully, if we must have guns in the hands of every American, these right wing nuts continue to get what’s coming to them.

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      19 hours ago

      Why would he celebrate the assassination of a political commentator when he holds the same exact job title

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        18 hours ago

        Why would a soldier want an enemy soldier to get killed when they have the same job title

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          They are not soldiers. They do not kill each other.

          They shout at each other on camera. Their animosity is probably exaggerated. At least one commentator brought up meeting him in person, in a debate, as a reason his death affected them more. Soldiers rarely meet opposing soldiers in such good terms as even the spiciest debate.

          There is a reason propaganda needs to dehumanize and otherize the “enemy”.