• reksas@sopuli.xyz
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    if communism = facism then facism = communism. Does that sound even remotely sane? Dumb monument. Though frankly i cant even understand how anyone would get something like that from a wireframe guy telling about huge fish it almost caught.

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      For most morons in the world, the fact that the English translation of the Nazi’s name has “socialist” in it was proof enough for them.

      God forbid we want to prevent the Elon musks and the Peter Thiels and even the John D Rockefellers of the world from just wrenching control from the rest of us entirely using their massively outsized wealth. You can still get a good wage and live in your bigger house running your hvac installer company or whatever, it doesn’t mean being paid in bread rations and it doesn’t mean putting people in camps, assholes.’it means The Koch brothers have no incentive to fight off solar energy so they can keep seeking you poison sludge that gives you cancer

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      On a historical aspect, it does sound a bit sane. Both were used to justify similar regimes that strangled the people.

      Communism can be seen as fascism by lucky liberals who dont understand we share this earth and have responsibilities to our neighbor. Communism ‘removes’ autonomy by making it a group effort and reducing the power of money which lets people have a degree of separation from the work and people.

      Not that I agree, but people see communism as the real world attempts and not the philosophy. This is very apparent when you realize those anti communism in America tend to be Christian.

      Jesus being a dude who provided free health care, food, and assistance to his neighbor. Just communist philosophy to the max. However they prefer the philosophy that he died so that we can keep sinning and would rather kill their brother than share the bread.

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        its just that i cant see how fasicm can be considered communism. Communist regime can also be facist but its crazy to just make them mean the same thing. Its like saying nazi germany was communist.

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          You say you can’t see how and then explain exactly how.

          They definitely do not mean the same thing that’s the same thing that happened to Nazis. They just were the biggest example of fascists on the world stage. A concept older than the Nazis. When Nazi is really more an ideology of hate wearing a façade.

          The same party that is used to chastise ‘socialist’ beliefs when it wasn’t truly socialist. Words evolve and change, it’s why spreading a message is better than spreading a term. Whether or not you are right mattrrs very little when the person listening understands something different.

          Help your neighbor and let them not go hungry - least we can do is spread our beliefs through our acts. I wish to raise the bottom line, and this will come at the detriment of my time, labor, and whatnot. This is why those with means would rather not sacrifice their comfort. Even when it’s just money.

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            21 hours ago

            I consider facism to be more like something that corrupts and worms its way into everything. As you said, its older thing than the nazis. Its like somekind of ideological disease.

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              Oh absolutely, it’s power which allows laziness and comforts. In communism those in office are not the labor force ans can control the flow of money. Comfort.

              Same issues arise with capitalism since money allows these sames comfort and once you’re rich enough they won’t let you be poor again.

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                Its also something that has to be dealt with or it will destroy humanity eventually, or turn it into something so horrible that destruction might be preferred. Any system we come up with will get corrupted by it if its allowed to exist.

                Though its so damn annoyingly hard to eradicate since by doing so you kind of become it yourself, at least if you try to do it the easy way. But to get rid of it in better way relies on people being able / wanting to change or at least not opposing the change in such way it causes more problems.