I’m not sorry. Seeing someone who spread so much hate and bigotry and weaponized disinformation get his clock cleaned was absolutely fine by me.

I have empathy for lots of people even if we don’t always agree, but not for people like Charlie Kirk.

  • BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
    142·
    6 days ago

    Feel your feelings. Do what’s right for you. Nobody else makes that decision for you.

    I’ve spent the last eight years infiltrating white supremacists on social media. I have seen people like Charlie and what their conversation is like when they’re among their own and the masks are off. That’s why I don’t feel bad for him, I have seen their true faces.

    • Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.worldEnglish
      14·
      6 days ago

      You dont need to feel bad for him. You dont need to mourn and you can be happy that he is dead. But if that video of him dying didnt make you feel awful, because you just watched somebody die, then dont you think you might need to take a look at yourself? How much snuff content have you watched to get to a point where somebody gushing blood from their neck doesnt feel bad, you actually feel good watching it? Dont you see how thats a little bit disturbing?

        • Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.worldEnglish
          12·
          6 days ago

          I dont think we are talking about the same thing here. Im not evem sure you read my comment properly.

          I am glad he is gone. He was a abhorrent piece of garbage.

          But i dont take pleasure in watching people die. Thats what the sentiment is here. Joy and pleasure at watching people die.

          I also dont know i can agree about me having a sheltered life. I have witnessed and experienced the death of others in my life. And it is always foul. I guess not living in the US being surrounded by death and mass shootings on an weekly basis means i still find it sickening.

          I just think that feeling happy someone died and feeling happy watching someone die are two different things

          One is joy that someone evil has been ended, one is joy at watching blood explode from someones neck.

          I hope you see my point.

          Edit: i feel i need to clarify. Death is gross to me. No matter how “quick”, “painless” or “deserving” it was.

            • Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.worldEnglish
              13·
              6 days ago

              So your humanity is on a sliding scale? Death is only gruesome and foul if it happens to good people? Is there a specific point where it flips from ok to not ok?

              Hating someone and wishing they were dead is not the same as taking pleasure in watching them die. My comment is responding to the original post about OP taking joy in watching the video. You are straw-manning my point. Twisting it into something else.

              Do you see what i am saying?

              I followed this stuff very closely. I know who kirk was. I despised him outright. You are mistaking my disgust for murder for empathy. I hated him. But i dont want to watch him explode blood from his neck.

              Cant you see how foul that is? You are really gonna compare it to the frankly archaic practice of death row and watching people get killed? What is this the fucking 1800s?

                • Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  1·
                  5 days ago

                  No sense of irony in that response.

                  How are you going to accuse me of not understanding other peoples feelings on a matter when you are responding in the exact way that you describe.

                  I am struggling to see it your way. Yes. But what makes it more difficult is you dont want to try to help me understand. You just want to attack me, attack my character and throw me aside because you dont seem to be able to deal with me having a different opinion to you.

                  I am trying to understand how someone can feel pleasure watching someone gush blood from the neck. Please stop calling me sheltered, its innacurate and offensive.

                  I completely understand finding joy in kirks death. 100% he was a monster. I dont know how many times i have to say it.

                  But watching someone die and knowing someone died are completely different things. The joy that is felt from each comes from very different places.

                  Cant we just talk about this instead of fighting about it? I’m serious. Take a step back, think about this. Charlie kirk has died and we are here arguing about it despite both hating the man.

                  I personally draw a line between being happy a bad person died, and sitting there watching him die in a gruesome way and enjoying the sight of it. I dont think it makes you better because you can stomach watching that. But thats what it feels like you are saying.

                  I hope you understand i am trying to just talk about this. Im not trying to cause more anger.