• NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip
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    23 hours ago

    I just want to make it abundantly clear I am not with this person.

    Titillation is good. Masturbation is good. Sex is good (when between consenting parties).

    The issue is not that there are tits and hints of dicks in games. The issue is that there can only be the kind that caters to a very specific male gaze and anything else unleashes a holy war.

    Lust is one of those material prisons

    Sweet fucking Eothas

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      12 hours ago

      I never disagree with that, it should exist and should be allowed. However, it flows abundantly and becomes the primary reason for a lot of gamers.

      At least in the past it took some effort to mod as they followed some form of decorum. Allow the nudity and it changes no difference.

      Yes, lust is a material prison to gooners. It literally is how we get the incel problem who feel they are mandated sex for being male yet understand little about actual social situation.

      Not because of games, but because they are facilitated to get that release and enjoyment constantly with little to no trouble. Specially vulnerable are the young who suffer from a lack of understading for the higher value in self control and moderation.

      Then again, you focus on video games and not the culture spoken of. Get defensive if you want, I can at least acknowledge my own pitfalls and spread the awareness I was made of aware of through my own tribulations with this. What I see develop online further and grosses me out as it was a culture I participated in and now I see the harm.

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        Specially vulnerable are the young who suffer from a lack of understading for the higher value in self control and moderation.

        you could also easily turn this the other way around and say

        specially vulnerable are the young who suffer because their sexual needs are kept away from them, through strict oversight from parents

        who decides what is good and what is not? the people should decide it themselves.

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        9 hours ago

        Incels have as much to do with sexual desire as rape does. Because that is inherently what the incel mindset is. It is that others (almost always women, sorry, “females”) don’t deserve any agency and must exist solely to service people with the abrahamic god given right to sex. It isn’t about getting your rocks off. It is about asserting power and dominance over someone by raping them.

        Horny people jack off. They go to bars to hook up. Hell, they even go to rub and tug joints. Incels get angry that (again, almost always) women aren’t servicing them and that they are forced to “goon”. And there is one endstate when it comes to deciding that someone needs to have sex with you regardless of their consent.

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          Exactly, and the material prison I speak of with lust is this mental state with the incels. Surround someone with nothing but sex that is purposely meant to sell you something and dxploit your basic animal desires, you create a situation in which you make it easy for incels to form.

          Incels forming in large clusters supports and pupports these bad habits of each other, then enabling the behavior further. In turn also normalizing and trivializing it as a subject matter.

          You for some reason are making this about you and other normal people who have the cognicent ability to be rational. The issue isn’t you nor is it video games or any one thing specifically. It is the bombardment that exists in marketing which in turn leads to the media as well being overblown with it to sell. My argument essentially is the same as sugar that the rest of the world would criticize America with.

          You put sugar in everything. It is causing a dopamine constant release, in turn raising the bar for it to actually make you happy. Hence, most people with sugar overload have a harder time finding joy. Most people don’t reslly understand the biochemical response to things we ingest, and much of it is the same with porn.

          If an incel ever actually had sex with a woman he didn’t pay, he would realize how starkly different reality is. That porn is edited and made perfect with angles that cant really be matched and is a completely different experience. They don’t enjoy sex or jerking off as much as they enjoy the momentary disullusionment with their reality.

          Video games just have a bigger influence with porn fixation due to it allowing direct 3D models and translation into SFM or blender animations. Along with it being fully fictional and having the same effect as hentai, being fully digital allows full control about what is and isnt. Losing the flaws of reality that make it beautiful. There is a reason hentai is more popular with kids, just how games are.

          Sex is great but this glorification and marketive exploitation is not that. I don’t know why you felt the need to involve any gods in the dialogue of human pitfalls due to corporate gain and political actualization. It’s almost as if the same group who I blame for facilitating, and using, the issue to their benefit are the same followers of the name you invoked. I wonder(the answer is yes) if they have made outcries and dogwhistles that specifically speak to these folks.

          Anyways if you do not like the god that is, make a god that isnt.