Got banned from [email protected] for pointing out that it was a big reach to say that wind power is included in the term “solar energy”. The mod referenced a temp ban from two years ago? Tried to say I’ve got a “history” of trolling and harassment, as well that I “doxxed” user DMs which also happened two years ago. I even, at the time, talked with the mod involved and reposted that comment without the DM screenshots. Like I don’t have an entirely squeaky clean modlog but it’s only a single page over two years? What the fluff? Like it’s a two week ban and I could hardly care but jeeze this feels like overreach.

https://slrpnk.net/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=518329

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    Looks like a pretty obvious case of PTB for me…

    The reasoning given is even more of a reach than “wind=solar”.

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      It’s really not a reach though, wind is created by the sun heating Earth. It’s a bit pedantic maybe but it’s not a reach, it’s direct cause and effect.

      It’s not a reach to say something that is technically correct. To say something is a reach or a stretch is to imply it is not entirely true or is not precise. The sun literally powers the wind on earth, it is just as much a reach to call a penguin a bird.

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          Absolutely. Hell, I’d argue basically all the energy on the planet is nuclear.

          But why is it solar if the sun heats molten salt to spin a turbine but it’s wind if the sun heats the earth’s mantle to move a turbine? Photovoltaic panels aren’t the only type of “solar” energy but they are one of the VERY few that don’t use a turbine of some sort.

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            I mean, its just most useful to discuss the actual physical mechanism being harnessed by the technology we have created.

            Photovoltaic panels are using solar radiation directly, windmills are using wind directly, hydroelectric generators are using the momentum of water directly.

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              Concentrated Solar Power is typically just called solar, the OG solar before photovoltaic got cheaper. Photovoltaic isn’t the only type of solar. It operates basically the same as wind, sun heats thing to move turbine.

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                Yeah, CSP would also be called solar as the physical mechanism that our manmade technology is interacting with is solar radiation. The difference with CSP vs wind turbines is that we’re “making” wind/water vapour move (using manmade tech) to move the turbine in the case of CSP.

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                  I don’t think CSP uses air like wind, pretty sure they generally use water. Also, we’re using man made tech to move wind turbines just like CSP. Hell, if we want to get into the weeds of it, photovoltaic panels are less solar than wind as they can only use a small wavelength of light to create electricity and hates too much thermal energy while wind uses all the heat energy that doesn’t escape.

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                    But the manmade tech is interacting with wind in the wind turbine case. If we wanna get really stupid about it then even fossil fuels are solar because the organics that turned into fossil fuels were all supported by the sun and they just served as single use solar batteries.

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        You have to go pretty far into pedantry… Which makes it a huge reach.

        Its a valid comment to say its a reach, and also extremely valid to say this mod was reaaaaaaaccchhhing with their actions.

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          No, it’s a reach to say something isn’t really applicable but it is literal cause and effect. It doesn’t fit the vibe, sure but it’s not a reach to say that wind is just solar energy, the energy that moves the wind is the sun. Just like if I said if I never eat I will starve it isn’t a reach but if I say I haven’t eaten so I will starve is a reach.

          You might not like it but it is technically correct.