• Zaktor@sopuli.xyz
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    I appreciate the link about the potential for push harvesting. That was not something I was aware of.

    It doesn’t sound like they’re intercepting though, it sounds like they’re asking the platform to provide it. That should require a warrant unless Apple has gone full collaboration, but that does make it insecure to a targeted search. And paired with fake reports could potentially be used to geolocate someone to a rough area with some work.

    Though I think if they have enough to compel cooperation from the platform they could also just get cell tower or direct GPS info. I’m not sure this really opens up a new vulnerability separate from the general risk of using a smartphone when the government can produce a warrant (which with the coopting of the judiciary may not be as high a bar as it once was).

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      That should require a warrant

      Pretty meaningless in the context of our current dictatorship.

      they could also just get cell tower or direct GPS info. I’m not sure this really opens up a new attack vector.

      Cell towers and GPS info don’t provide any information about what the user is doing on the device.

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        “They received an ICE block push” isn’t a meaningful piece of information compared to location. It’s already a targeted search. What do you think the government will do with that information?

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          “They received an ICE block push” isn’t a meaningful piece of information compared to location.

          Quite the opposite. Getting notifications from ICEBlock shows that they are potentially “fugitives” or “aiding and abetting criminals” or “targeting law enforcement”. These are not my words, these are words from the current federal administration. A random location tells them nothing about any of that activity.

          What do you think the government will do with that information?

          We’ve reached the inevitable future where the govt is using any and all information they can get to target “criminals” and feeding them into databases and processing them with shitty AI in order to decide who they’re going to harass that day.

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            It’s still a targeted search, which may be bullshit but isn’t a trawling operation. If they’re targeting you, a demerit for simply having ICEBlock installed is the least of your worries. And if Apple goes full collaboration, then any “improper” app install is going to be a danger regardless of whether it’s pushing.

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              It’s still a targeted search

              I’m telling you it’s not a “targeted search”, It’s an AI-generated output from a bullshit generator.

              a demerit for simply having ICEBlock installed is the least of your worries

              You don’t know that.

              any “improper” app install is going to be a danger regardless of whether it’s pushing.

              Also correct. But some apps are more sensitive than others.

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                Getting the information in the first place is a targeted search. Unless Apple goes full collaborator they will require a court order. They have already made the decision (for whatever reason) to target you.