Are you just conditioned to say that when you see the word true? This isn’t a No True Scotsman scenario because the claim isn’t that “all oppressed humans grow past a desire to become the oppressor” at all, it’s saying that people that do are morally good. The post is about someone viewing the world as having oppressors and the oppressed and nothing in between (would rather have a symbol on a tank than a concentration camp prisoner’s uniform). So saying “Growing out of that desire is true humanity.” is describing what the commenter views as good traits for humans.
No True Scotsman fallacy is this,
All X do Y
I know someone who is X who doesn’t do Y
They are not truly X.
It has to do with excluding people from a group. The commenter is clearly not trying to say people with this belief aren’t humans, moreover they wouldn’t have any need to do so because they’re not trying to defend a point they made against someone pointing out some humans do that (because they never said it was a requisite for being a human).
I’ll tell you what true humanity is. True humanity is genocide, slavery, rape, slaughter, and destruction. You can’t say those traits aren’t the true legacy of humanity upon this dying world. True humanity is killing itself in pursuit of worthless stacks of paper, harming countless innocents in the process. True humanity will go extinct from its greed and it won’t be missed. Animal agriculture won’t be missed. Coal mining won’t be missed. Luxury megayachts won’t be missed. Fox News won’t be missed. True humanity is a blight upon this world and I would welcome its destruction if it were not for the innocent animals that will die in its wake.
And if you want true humanity to be anything different, then rise up and depose the leaders of humanity who are embodying true humanity.
Thinking poorly of humanity doesn’t make me a doomer, but believing your species is exceptional in spite of all the abuses your people have committed against the other inhabitants of this planet does make you a bigot. I didn’t want to use personal labels because they make people resistant to change, but if you’re taking us to this point then I have to say that believing in your race’s exceptionalism while they’re committing a holocaust against the animals is incredibly tone deaf and insensitive.
I think you’ve confused imperialism for humanity. Its an insult to indigenous cultures that have lived for thousands of years in harmony with the environment to says “humans evil, no way around it”. We havent always been a blight, and many people still arent. It does serve imperialism for you to belive that though. Everyone who gives up serves the opressors. I’m only bothering to comment because I used to think and say the same as you - ive since been exposed to different kinds of people and have realised this people-bad narrative is learned helplessness.
Are you just conditioned to say that when you see the word true? This isn’t a No True Scotsman scenario because the claim isn’t that “all oppressed humans grow past a desire to become the oppressor” at all, it’s saying that people that do are morally good. The post is about someone viewing the world as having oppressors and the oppressed and nothing in between (would rather have a symbol on a tank than a concentration camp prisoner’s uniform). So saying “Growing out of that desire is true humanity.” is describing what the commenter views as good traits for humans.
No True Scotsman fallacy is this,
It has to do with excluding people from a group. The commenter is clearly not trying to say people with this belief aren’t humans, moreover they wouldn’t have any need to do so because they’re not trying to defend a point they made against someone pointing out some humans do that (because they never said it was a requisite for being a human).
I’ll tell you what true humanity is. True humanity is genocide, slavery, rape, slaughter, and destruction. You can’t say those traits aren’t the true legacy of humanity upon this dying world. True humanity is killing itself in pursuit of worthless stacks of paper, harming countless innocents in the process. True humanity will go extinct from its greed and it won’t be missed. Animal agriculture won’t be missed. Coal mining won’t be missed. Luxury megayachts won’t be missed. Fox News won’t be missed. True humanity is a blight upon this world and I would welcome its destruction if it were not for the innocent animals that will die in its wake.
And if you want true humanity to be anything different, then rise up and depose the leaders of humanity who are embodying true humanity.
Then tell them, not me.
Okay.
Hey @[email protected] true humanity is violence and oppression.
Ok doomer
Thinking poorly of humanity doesn’t make me a doomer, but believing your species is exceptional in spite of all the abuses your people have committed against the other inhabitants of this planet does make you a bigot. I didn’t want to use personal labels because they make people resistant to change, but if you’re taking us to this point then I have to say that believing in your race’s exceptionalism while they’re committing a holocaust against the animals is incredibly tone deaf and insensitive.
lol, I just said humanity can do better. I think I found one of those trolls the internet taught me not to feed.
I think you’ve confused imperialism for humanity. Its an insult to indigenous cultures that have lived for thousands of years in harmony with the environment to says “humans evil, no way around it”. We havent always been a blight, and many people still arent. It does serve imperialism for you to belive that though. Everyone who gives up serves the opressors. I’m only bothering to comment because I used to think and say the same as you - ive since been exposed to different kinds of people and have realised this people-bad narrative is learned helplessness.
I didn’t say no way around it, I only said humanity is dominated by evil.