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spujb@lemmy.cafe to 196@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish · 2 days ago

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    “The only way to not be exterminated is to exterminate”… chilling

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      But this is not what that quote is saying… Do you think the person who the quote is from (who survived the holocaust - who btw died in 2016) would be okay wirh another genocide? The quote is about having the means to protect yourself, not to do whats been done to you…

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      I was thinking it probably means that “the only way for us to prevent Holocaust ever happening again is strong defence” not so much that “we need to roll tanks into Gaza” type of thing

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      “if we want to survive as a people, we must exterminate them, or else they will exterminate us”

      a common excuse for genocide, as well as Literally Nazi Propaganda

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      Literally what the Nazis said, btw

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        Turns out fascism is the same no matter who’s perpetrating. :/

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      This is essentially the Zionist stance.

      It started with a view that ‘in order for Jews to escape persecution, an ethnostate for the Jewish faith must be established’. During this time it was still in contention within the movement on where Zion should be established, but it’s also noteable that independant zionist groups were buying land in Palestine for establishing Zion at the same time. This was during the time that Palestinians (and Arabs within the Ottoman empire in general) were helping the British with destabilizing the Ottoman empire under the agreement that these resistance groups would be given their land back from the Ottomans.

      Then the Balfour Declaration occurred in 1917 which promised British support in making Palestine a safehaven for Jews, and shortly after the promise of giving Palestinians their land was reevaluated.

      As tensions and conflict arose between the well-funded Zionist collective growing in Palestine and the Palestinian forces who wanted the Zionist project out of Palestine, a new tone ended up showing up in Zionist literature. A noteable essay, ‘The Iron Wall’ by Ze’ev Jabotinsky communicates that shift fairly well.

      Zionist colonisation must either stop, or else proceed regardless of the native population. Which means that it can proceed and develop only under the protection of a power that is independent of the native population – behind an iron wall, which the native population cannot breach.

      Essentially Ze’ev concludes in his essay that the Zionist project will fail unless it takes on a fully colonialist design. This was also just after Winston Churchill prohibited Zionists from settling on the East side of the Jordan River in 1923.

      These are mostly snippets of the whole history, but it is essentially the trajectory we’ve followed since, from what I’ve read.

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      Cycle of abuse mentality.

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