Modlog: https://sh.itjust.works/modlog/25693?page=1&actionType=All&userId=21053985 , banned by @[email protected]

For context, goat started calling dbzer0 users tankies, and got into a few arguments.

More context:

It started (to my knowledge) with this comment, goat pinged db0 after he downvoted a comment

a note on the uyghurs (click to show

For the record, I believe that the Uyghurs are mistreated by the CCP, and are experiencing cultural erasure and Human Rights abuses, but there’s a lack of evidence that it’s a genocide specifically (especially since it seems to target the religion, rather than the ethnic group).

Goat banned IndustryStandard, leading to this thread: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/52160152/ leading to goat commenting this:
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/52160152/21070262

He mentions this:

We constantly encounter bots, spammers, alt accounts, trolls, and doxxers, so I need to be vigilant by regularly checking who’s interfering and from where.

Which I find ironic, since there was some vote manipulation happening, which goat did nothing about (and could be behind), but I’ll get to that later.

After some more arguments, goat started calling dbzer0 users tankies, saying that letting tankie users engage on dbzer0 comms means other users are tankies:


source

He said that it’s different for LW (lemmy.world) and SJW (sh.itjust.works, not the other word). He then poster the “Tank Man” picture to [email protected], as he expected us to retaliate (being tankies, according to him). We did not, in fact, retaliate: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/21089819

He also posted this in tankiejerk: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/52268655, https://sh.itjust.works/comment/20733015.

He also may have done vote manipulation, and at the very least allowed it.
Take, for example, this comment: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/21091723
Per lemvotes, it was downvoted by the following users:

The relevant ones here are:

They have all downvoted exclusively arguments against goat and others, and were made almost at the same time.

After a bit more arguing (I’m not posting the specific comments because it’s tedious, and they’re easy to see by scrolling through goat’s profile.) goat decided to ban all dbzer0 users from meanwhileongrad, I think this comment marks when he decided to do this, but I may be wrong.

note on the post that comment was in reply to

I think this reply (by unruffled) was taken out of context. Unruffled is absolutely not defending what’s happening to the Uyghurs, they’re saying that a lot of people have a double standard, where they will not hesitate to condemn the Uyghur genocide, but hesitate on the gaza one, especially when the gaza one is more severe and urgent. To quote them directly:

Yes, that’s exactly what I was saying but of course they misrepresented it. You know exactly what Americans are like. They couldn’t give a shit about the uyghurs, except as a way to China bash and feel superior. I also explicitly said later in the comments I agreed it was a genocide. They’re just doin’ the usual bad faith takes.

Feel free to quote me lol

Since this goat had been banned from dbzer0 for being hostile: https://sh.itjust.works/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=63615

        • Tomorrow_Farewell [any, they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
          31·
          23 hours ago

          Hahaha.
          You are literally in support of the most prolific invader and genocidaire organisation in the world. You don’t have a room to call anybody else ‘fash’ (while trying to nazi-jacket somebody else and make a rather bizarre and baseless insinuation).

            • Tomorrow_Farewell [any, they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
              21·
              22 hours ago

              One of the states that you are opposed to fought against colonialism, including the direct war against the Lebensraum project, as well as helping anti-colonial liberation movements in Asia, Africa, the Americas against your empire. Historians can’t seem to be able to point to any genocides that this state committed, so you either know more than the people with the most expertise in the topic, or you spoke before you gave this any thought.

              Meanwhile, you obviously support your empire. You even try to pretend that Russians are behind everything bad. Come to think of it, you do seem to single out Russians as somehow a ‘bad’ ethnic/national group. There is a word for prejudice based on ethnicity, nationality (and/or religion).

                • Tomorrow_Farewell [any, they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
                  11·
                  3 hours ago

                  This is hilarious.

                  Apparently, liberating countries from colonial subjugation and nazism is ‘conquest’.
                  Not even sure what you mean by ‘slavers’.
                  We have already established that historians who specialise on the history of the USSR disagree with you, and you haven’t been able to point to anything that the USSR did that was supposedly genocidal. How about you cease vagueposting?
                  It’s also obvious that you do not know what capitalism is and who capitalists are. Otherwise, you wouldn’t be claiming that the USSR had capitalists when it literally maintained a planned economy (until Gorbachyov).

                  I am going to note that you are pretending as if a state that increased life expectancy of its people by 60%, brought literacy rates from 15-40% to around 100%, was first in the world to give women the sort of rights that we take for granted, gave workers 8-hour working days (with the Imperial core adopting similar policies with the internal justification of combating support for socialism) within the first 30 years of its existence, provided people with guaranteed housing, guaranteed access to healthcare, guaranteed access to education, helped people in Asia, Africa, the Americas fight against your empire’s colonialism, etc. was somehow bad.