Modlog: https://sh.itjust.works/modlog/25693?page=1&actionType=All&userId=21053985 , banned by @[email protected]
For context, goat started calling dbzer0 users tankies, and got into a few arguments.
More context:
It started (to my knowledge) with this comment, goat pinged db0 after he downvoted a comment
a note on the uyghurs (click to show
For the record, I believe that the Uyghurs are mistreated by the CCP, and are experiencing cultural erasure and Human Rights abuses, but there’s a lack of evidence that it’s a genocide specifically (especially since it seems to target the religion, rather than the ethnic group).
Goat banned IndustryStandard, leading to this thread: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/52160152/ leading to goat commenting this:
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/52160152/21070262
He mentions this:
We constantly encounter bots, spammers, alt accounts, trolls, and doxxers, so I need to be vigilant by regularly checking who’s interfering and from where.
Which I find ironic, since there was some vote manipulation happening, which goat did nothing about (and could be behind), but I’ll get to that later.
After some more arguments, goat started calling dbzer0 users tankies, saying that letting tankie users engage on dbzer0 comms means other users are tankies:
He said that it’s different for LW (lemmy.world) and SJW (sh.itjust.works, not the other word). He then poster the “Tank Man” picture to [email protected], as he expected us to retaliate (being tankies, according to him). We did not, in fact, retaliate: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/21089819
He also posted this in tankiejerk: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/52268655, https://sh.itjust.works/comment/20733015.
He also may have done vote manipulation, and at the very least allowed it.
Take, for example, this comment: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/21091723
Per lemvotes, it was downvoted by the following users:
The relevant ones here are:
- [email protected],
- [email protected],
- [email protected].
If you look through other comments, they downvoted me and other users near-systemically, while upvoting comments made by goat.
For example, take a look at their (respective) lemvotes profile pages: https://lemvotes.org/user/[email protected] https://lemvotes.org/user/[email protected] https://lemvotes.org/user/[email protected]
They have all downvoted exclusively arguments against goat and others, and were made almost at the same time.
After a bit more arguing (I’m not posting the specific comments because it’s tedious, and they’re easy to see by scrolling through goat’s profile.) goat decided to ban all dbzer0 users from meanwhileongrad, I think this comment marks when he decided to do this, but I may be wrong.
note on the post that comment was in reply to
I think this reply (by unruffled) was taken out of context. Unruffled is absolutely not defending what’s happening to the Uyghurs, they’re saying that a lot of people have a double standard, where they will not hesitate to condemn the Uyghur genocide, but hesitate on the gaza one, especially when the gaza one is more severe and urgent. To quote them directly:
Yes, that’s exactly what I was saying but of course they misrepresented it. You know exactly what Americans are like. They couldn’t give a shit about the uyghurs, except as a way to China bash and feel superior. I also explicitly said later in the comments I agreed it was a genocide. They’re just doin’ the usual bad faith takes.
Feel free to quote me lol
Since this goat had been banned from dbzer0 for being hostile:
https://sh.itjust.works/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=63615
But anyone with Wikipedia access can easily verify my claims. These are explicit regime policies that are well documented via historical records.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russification
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinicization
These over all high light how the practice works but it was implemented via plethora of explicit and implicit practices by the regime and majority population.
Wikipedia is racist?
Asking for a friend
The shitlib Holy Scripture has come out. “How can it not be true if Wikipedia says it!(or kind of implies it anyway)”
this appears to be an article saying that when chinese people and other immigrants interact, they culturally assimilate, is this different elsewhere?
Some assimilation is natural but killing off male population and raping the women is not…
Also that article provides brief historical overview of Chinese interactions with various people. Proepr study would require a review of each time period and how the assimilation was done specifically. A lot of which not a cheerful cultural exchange.
How is that different from european history?
No… That’s not my claim at all. My thesis here is that both western and eastern approach is the same brutal Imperialism of different flavour.
Davel only likes to talk about how westoid bad, chine russia good. That is disingenuous shilling.
I think you’d do better making that stance more clear, I think you went wrong by making it sound like china doing this is special in some way, I genuinely believed from your text that that is what you were getting at.
Assuming that’s what you meant, “It’s just human nature” is also a bullshit argument, though it does allow plausible deniability of racism. It’s akin to people who say of the Palestinian genocide, “oh, they’ve been fighting in the Middle East for millennia.” It’s not an explanation; it’s a thought-terminating cliché.
I never said that… You bring it that it up for the thris time in this chain, dear
Lol, what an obviously bullshit backtrack.