Modlog: https://sh.itjust.works/modlog/25693?page=1&actionType=All&userId=21053985 , banned by @[email protected]
For context, goat started calling dbzer0 users tankies, and got into a few arguments.
More context:
It started (to my knowledge) with this comment, goat pinged db0 after he downvoted a comment
a note on the uyghurs (click to show
For the record, I believe that the Uyghurs are mistreated by the CCP, and are experiencing cultural erasure and Human Rights abuses, but there’s a lack of evidence that it’s a genocide specifically (especially since it seems to target the religion, rather than the ethnic group).
Goat banned IndustryStandard, leading to this thread: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/52160152/ leading to goat commenting this:
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/52160152/21070262
He mentions this:
We constantly encounter bots, spammers, alt accounts, trolls, and doxxers, so I need to be vigilant by regularly checking who’s interfering and from where.
Which I find ironic, since there was some vote manipulation happening, which goat did nothing about (and could be behind), but I’ll get to that later.
After some more arguments, goat started calling dbzer0 users tankies, saying that letting tankie users engage on dbzer0 comms means other users are tankies:
He said that it’s different for LW (lemmy.world) and SJW (sh.itjust.works, not the other word). He then poster the “Tank Man” picture to [email protected], as he expected us to retaliate (being tankies, according to him). We did not, in fact, retaliate: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/21089819
He also posted this in tankiejerk: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/52268655, https://sh.itjust.works/comment/20733015.
He also may have done vote manipulation, and at the very least allowed it.
Take, for example, this comment: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/21091723
Per lemvotes, it was downvoted by the following users:
The relevant ones here are:
- [email protected],
- [email protected],
- [email protected].
If you look through other comments, they downvoted me and other users near-systemically, while upvoting comments made by goat.
For example, take a look at their (respective) lemvotes profile pages: https://lemvotes.org/user/[email protected] https://lemvotes.org/user/[email protected] https://lemvotes.org/user/[email protected]
They have all downvoted exclusively arguments against goat and others, and were made almost at the same time.
After a bit more arguing (I’m not posting the specific comments because it’s tedious, and they’re easy to see by scrolling through goat’s profile.) goat decided to ban all dbzer0 users from meanwhileongrad, I think this comment marks when he decided to do this, but I may be wrong.
note on the post that comment was in reply to
I think this reply (by unruffled) was taken out of context. Unruffled is absolutely not defending what’s happening to the Uyghurs, they’re saying that a lot of people have a double standard, where they will not hesitate to condemn the Uyghur genocide, but hesitate on the gaza one, especially when the gaza one is more severe and urgent. To quote them directly:
Yes, that’s exactly what I was saying but of course they misrepresented it. You know exactly what Americans are like. They couldn’t give a shit about the uyghurs, except as a way to China bash and feel superior. I also explicitly said later in the comments I agreed it was a genocide. They’re just doin’ the usual bad faith takes.
Feel free to quote me lol
Since this goat had been banned from dbzer0 for being hostile:
https://sh.itjust.works/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=63615
The idea that “the goal” is to eliminate Turkic peoples in Xinjiang is absurd and not even what the fed-adjascent propagandists claim.
The goal is to assimilate the pliable ones into han majority… That’s how han colonialism works
Russia practices the same colonial style. Kill off opposition and assimilate useful idiots.
This is just pure orientalism.
Lovely. Fu Manchu-assed analysis.
This is a well documented practice of the Chinese regimes going back 2000-2500 thousand years.
Of course, it’s in their nature. It’s basic evolutionary psychology. It’s indelibly baked into the Han DNA, as you can see from the jawline on the mongoloid skull.
Why would you go online and tell on yourself like this?
No it is their history of colonization via conquest and assimilation.
Their behaviour in Tibet and Xinjiang speaks for itself but the play book goes back 1st millenia of BCE
Russia is doing the same thing in occupied ukraine. They did it in baltics and Kazakhstan during Soviet and imperial rule among other subjugated peoples.
Both are also xenophobic or as you would “racist” for that westoid audience. Just like Anglo white is in his countries.
Amazing. Good bit, Mr. Rational, Sober, Facts & Logic Adult In the Room. I look forward to your next history lesson.
Just providing historical context to your pro Chinese/russia regime shilling, dear, the class deserves to hear both sides of the Imperialist history lesson.
We wouldn’t want them to assume that only dirty anglos do it ;)
Since we are all interested in progress here, right?
Mate, it’s obvious that you’re (1) racist and (2) just freestyling debunked, 19th century sociology tropes to bolster your… no actual case. Nobody believes you’re a Iron Age Eurasian history buff or an expert on the Yellow Psyche. You’re just a bullshitter.
Sadly the useful idiots are the loudest of the idiots.
When their enabled for the incoming regime that’s literally their job. Drown out opposition and present the narrative as if it was already settled.
Just look at Russian propaganda early into ukraine war. You would have thought there was nobody left to fight in ukraine.