Life pro tip: fight lifestyle inflation/creep. Use all the shampoo. Be conscious of waste. Don’t take it to “frugal jerk” levels but just keep in mind that you have to earn every dollar you spend.
At some point, you’ll probably be making more money. People tend to choose to take this opportunity to also spend more money. Keep this to a minimum. Do you want to retire in your 40s or in your 80s?
If you are aware from the beginning that your life will be poverty and suffering, you’ll maybe be able to deal with the poverty and suffering a tiny bit better when you get there.
Most people do end up making more money the longer they stick with a job/career. It may still be an unfair wage but a 50 cent raise is still some extra cash at the end of the day, and that little bit can go even farther if you are frugal with it. If you have a surplus of even $50 at the end of a month you can start investing it to at least keep up with inflation or if you’re lucky even get ahead a bit.
nah if you’re 30 but spent at least five years in a relationship AND you had career growth in the last five years AND you got out of school without debt AND you haven’t had any major setbacks AND you’re generally frugal, you should have a decent amount available due to splitting expenses and be making okay income now
I’m not trying to make light of the exceptional challenges you face and the opportunities and luck I had but I didn’t have it particularly easy.
In my childhood, I’d generally get new shoes when the old ones had holes in the bottom. After high school, I worked painting restaurants and refinishing furniture while I went to community college, then got a pell grant and a student loan to go to state university. I took the bus or rode a $500 street legal dirt bike with a cracked frame to work after I graduated. I was living in a small 3 bedroom house with 4 other roommates at the time (one of whom lived in the garage). I needed a few more university courses to get into a professional training program for my career. It took me a couple more years to complete those pre-reqs and each of those classes cost me about $1000, which was nearly all the money I could save up each year. Eventually, I got through the training program, obtained a professional license and was able to get a job which would, after about another 10 years of work and promotions, eventually become rather high paying.
As you all have guessed, I’m over 40.
I agree with you if you suggest that the system is rigged in favor of the rich and connected or that everything is fucked for people just entering the job market. But also, it’s on you to figure it out.
You seem unable to distinguish between how you think things should be and how they actually are. This is probably why you have a job and not a career.
YOU will never earn more money, other people are capable of making better decisions. Navigating the world like ‘well if things were just this would make sense’ is fundamentally incredibly stupid.
I’m not supporting the way things are, where did I say that. A system can be unjust and you can also make bad decisions inside of it. These are separate things.
A store clerk should be able to afford buying a house. But they can’t in many places, so idk maybe don’t aim for that as your 10 year career plan if you want to buy a house.
Insane of you to complain about ‘personal attacks’.
Genuinely, explain how I’m being selfish. I have no idea what you’re talking about.
‘maybe live in reality and make decisions on reality instead of a fantasy of a just world’ is my entire stance. Your stance seems to be ‘making more money later in your career is impossible[I don’t have a career with any room for growth and am projecting this as normal for most people]’
Life pro tip: fight lifestyle inflation/creep. Use all the shampoo. Be conscious of waste. Don’t take it to “frugal jerk” levels but just keep in mind that you have to earn every dollar you spend.
At some point, you’ll probably be making more money. People tend to choose to take this opportunity to also spend more money. Keep this to a minimum. Do you want to retire in your 40s or in your 80s?
Ah, the “just make more money” solution. Simple.
No i think the message was dont waste money. OP fumbled yes but his initial point still stands.
If you are aware from the beginning that your life will be poverty and suffering, you’ll maybe be able to deal with the poverty and suffering a tiny bit better when you get there.
Most people do end up making more money the longer they stick with a job/career. It may still be an unfair wage but a 50 cent raise is still some extra cash at the end of the day, and that little bit can go even farther if you are frugal with it. If you have a surplus of even $50 at the end of a month you can start investing it to at least keep up with inflation or if you’re lucky even get ahead a bit.
lmao, you think anyone in their 20s right now is gonna be able to afford to retire, period?
Must not be from the US. That, or whatever you’re smoking, I want some.
This comment is US defaultism at its finest
I imagine people born before the New Deal felt the same way. Remember, history changes on a dime and decades can happen in weeks.
there was a fuckton of violence before the new deal
I don’t know why anyone would not do this. The watered-down shampoo spreads easier than its natural form, it’s the best part of the bottle.
say you are 35+ without saying so
nah if you’re 30 but spent at least five years in a relationship AND you had career growth in the last five years AND you got out of school without debt AND you haven’t had any major setbacks AND you’re generally frugal, you should have a decent amount available due to splitting expenses and be making okay income now
<30 tho idk you might be cooked
you could have just avoided all that text by writing ‘be born to parents with money’
nah my parents barely had shit, just very frugal
you can’t frugal 12 an hour in 2025 much less 7.25
never said you could
so like I said, having enough money growing up is kinda obvious in most cases
nothing wrong with being blessed, in fact it should be the default but our country is sick
I’m under 35 and I agree with him. The vast majority of people will end up making more money as they get older
lmao have you looked at US income/social mobility recently?
no one cares if you are a few raises better off I’m talking real wealth growth
I’m betting you grew up with parents that had money
I’m not trying to make light of the exceptional challenges you face and the opportunities and luck I had but I didn’t have it particularly easy.
In my childhood, I’d generally get new shoes when the old ones had holes in the bottom. After high school, I worked painting restaurants and refinishing furniture while I went to community college, then got a pell grant and a student loan to go to state university. I took the bus or rode a $500 street legal dirt bike with a cracked frame to work after I graduated. I was living in a small 3 bedroom house with 4 other roommates at the time (one of whom lived in the garage). I needed a few more university courses to get into a professional training program for my career. It took me a couple more years to complete those pre-reqs and each of those classes cost me about $1000, which was nearly all the money I could save up each year. Eventually, I got through the training program, obtained a professional license and was able to get a job which would, after about another 10 years of work and promotions, eventually become rather high paying.
As you all have guessed, I’m over 40.
I agree with you if you suggest that the system is rigged in favor of the rich and connected or that everything is fucked for people just entering the job market. But also, it’s on you to figure it out.
Say you think working retail is a career without saying so.
If you don’t get more earning potential over time you don’t have a career, you have a job.
fuck off selfish shitbag
all full-time jobs should provide a living wage with benefits
stop supporting corporate subsidies
Complete nonsense response.
You seem unable to distinguish between how you think things should be and how they actually are. This is probably why you have a job and not a career.
YOU will never earn more money, other people are capable of making better decisions. Navigating the world like ‘well if things were just this would make sense’ is fundamentally incredibly stupid.
no dipshit I know how things ‘are’
it’s fucking disgusting and so are people like you supporting it
as to the personal attacks lmao you know nothing about me but because I’m not a selfish asswad I must be poor? lolol
people like you are a cancer to a better society
I’m not supporting the way things are, where did I say that. A system can be unjust and you can also make bad decisions inside of it. These are separate things.
A store clerk should be able to afford buying a house. But they can’t in many places, so idk maybe don’t aim for that as your 10 year career plan if you want to buy a house.
Insane of you to complain about ‘personal attacks’.
so brain washed you can’t even feel the boot, you just accept being this selfish as normal
Genuinely, explain how I’m being selfish. I have no idea what you’re talking about.
‘maybe live in reality and make decisions on reality instead of a fantasy of a just world’ is my entire stance. Your stance seems to be ‘making more money later in your career is impossible[I don’t have a career with any room for growth and am projecting this as normal for most people]’