I’ve never understood the concept of original sin. Catholics teach that babies likely go to hell (though less bad hell than murderers?), many Protestants teach that free will is effectively dead, etc.
What’s crazy is that Christians apparently believe we can inherit sin but not debt, and that children of criminals deserve a fresh start instead of finishing their parents’ sentence(s). Why do we only inherit the type of sin that requires the church to exist to eradicate? That’s stupid.
It seems more reasonable that everyone is responsible for their own actions. Surely the Adam story is more about having the opportunity to prove ourselves and not the requirement to find the right church before we die, and if we don’t have the chance or we pick wrong, we’re screwed.
I’m religious and Christian (and went to church today), I just think a lot of Christian denominations are manipulative. Jesus taught love and peace, and worrying about going to hell doesn’t jive with that. My understanding of a loving God is that you’ll get more than you deserve, whether you accept Christ or not, and that will be based on what you did with what you had.
I’m super uncomfortable with the amount of manipulation in religion…
I’m super uncomfortable with the amount of manipulation in religion…
I am too. Having said that, it’s a great common goal if ran by the right person. If you’re in a rural area, you see those people at least every sunday, so you can trust them. Everyone helps each other and looks out for you. If they preach the doctrine of Jesus with the golden rule as truly their goal, then more power to them. But as you said, there is a lot to throw out and/or disregard in most.
I think modern society has tried to replace the community part with various things like, drinking, sex, games of various types like sports, video games, board, dnd, arts like burning man, concerts, crafts, book clubs, fraternities, etc., but you have to get a lot of people to get that true community experience. Guilt and family coercion seemed to do the trick for a long time. That’s not working as much anymore, so the right wing types are trying to force our way back to that time.
To your point, I really do think trump’s appeal is daddy issues. Religion is failing them, since anything you naturally do is a sin.
Abusive daddy doesn’t ask too much of them (at first), and as you said, hurts the people they don’t like.
I’ve never understood the concept of original sin. Catholics teach that babies likely go to hell (though less bad hell than murderers?), many Protestants teach that free will is effectively dead, etc.
What’s crazy is that Christians apparently believe we can inherit sin but not debt, and that children of criminals deserve a fresh start instead of finishing their parents’ sentence(s). Why do we only inherit the type of sin that requires the church to exist to eradicate? That’s stupid.
It seems more reasonable that everyone is responsible for their own actions. Surely the Adam story is more about having the opportunity to prove ourselves and not the requirement to find the right church before we die, and if we don’t have the chance or we pick wrong, we’re screwed.
I understand it as if you replace sin with “how to make you feel guilty about something so I can control you,” it all makes sense.
Edit: I’m on a religious history spiel today. Happy Sunday everyone! lol
Lol.
I’m religious and Christian (and went to church today), I just think a lot of Christian denominations are manipulative. Jesus taught love and peace, and worrying about going to hell doesn’t jive with that. My understanding of a loving God is that you’ll get more than you deserve, whether you accept Christ or not, and that will be based on what you did with what you had.
I’m super uncomfortable with the amount of manipulation in religion…
I am too. Having said that, it’s a great common goal if ran by the right person. If you’re in a rural area, you see those people at least every sunday, so you can trust them. Everyone helps each other and looks out for you. If they preach the doctrine of Jesus with the golden rule as truly their goal, then more power to them. But as you said, there is a lot to throw out and/or disregard in most.
I think modern society has tried to replace the community part with various things like, drinking, sex, games of various types like sports, video games, board, dnd, arts like burning man, concerts, crafts, book clubs, fraternities, etc., but you have to get a lot of people to get that true community experience. Guilt and family coercion seemed to do the trick for a long time. That’s not working as much anymore, so the right wing types are trying to force our way back to that time.