I’m sorry but it’s true. Graphene OS sucks the big one… It’s absolutely janky when it comes to its Android app support, it’s UI is absolutely atrocious, and all around. It’s simply a wonky operating system.
Not only that but the whole premise of of making an operating system built only for Google pixel hardware on top of Android Open source project is just silly when it comes to the idea of “privacy”. That would be like trying to open up a gay nightclub in Qatar. Google could snap its fingers tomorrow and lock down the ability to unlock bootloaders.
What do you think? Am I wrong here guys?
The UI is just AOSP android, simple and ugly (imo) as always. It’s not unique in that either, most OEMs have a skin based on AOSP in some way.
As for the app support, I have had very little issues over the past year on GrapheneOS. Aside from some apps being exclusive to the play store (ie they don’t host them elsewhere and Aurora doesn’t have a copy), I have a pretty seamless experience. And yes, including banking apps.
Tap to pay doesn’t work (they’re upfront about that) but NFC is still fully features in my experience.
Its UI…? It’s got the same UI as Android…?
As a user, I can definitely say that GrapheneOS is the single best project in the open source space. 99.99% of stuff works out-of-the-box, with de-facto feature parity. The remaining 0.01% is the one dumb investing app which I can only assume has sneaky spyware on it.
anything robinhood style yes but OGs like fidelity/vanguard/scwab no issue…
hmm i wonder why
Yeah, I can access all my banking perfectly fine on GrapheneOS. Never ran into a compatibility issue with anything to be honest.
That would be like trying to open up a gay nightclub in Qatar.
It’s not just qatar. It’s many many allies of the fascist USA.
Lol look at this wankers post history
As I know some use Google pixel hardware because bootloader can be unlocked and then locked again (for security reason) with custom rom. Read that One+ allow do the same. With other vendors you can only unlock bootloader if vendor allow.
Fairphone can do that too
fairphone has a different purpose, while bootloader relock is solid there is more to the security set up.
Tell me you don’t understand GrapheneOS without telling me you don’t understand GrapheneOS.
This typed from a GrapheneOS phone that works just great, including the UI (breath of fresh simple air, no clutter, no crap, no AI).
And I’m happily using my phone knowing that not a single thing is spying on me or data mining and everything on my phone is there by my choice. And even happier that there’s not a damn thing Google can do about it.
Yes, you are wrong.
It’s not their fault that they can’t make Graphene OS for more models. It’s the fault of the manufacturers of these smartphones who always put a stick in the wheel for anyone who wants to make a privacy oriented OS for their smartphone models.
for a privacy oriented OS you don’t need a very specific security chip that only a single pije of phones have. that’s maximalism.
What are u talking about ui design it stock android from google
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Looking at their history, it seems like they just kind of latch onto a thing and start going off about it, then try to defend their position at all costs.
Some of it’s pretty based, some of it’s pretty dumb.
It’s gotta be one of those lembots in a different suit!
It could be, it’s getting harder to tell.
nothing wrong with that. hopefully OP can sort out why the hot take is not right.
GR8 B8 M8 🎣
Google could snap its fingers tomorrow and lock down the ability to unlock bootloaders.
This could prevent my next phone from being a Pixel.
But to be clear, there’s nothing Google can do to my already unlocked phone running free (as in freedom) software.
I am already outside their walled garden, running a phone that will comfortably outlast all of the vendor locked ones receiving enshittification updates.
Now, I agree that the long term future of GrapheneOS, if it has one, probably isn’t Google hardware. I find that Google doesn’t present themselves, on the whole, as a trustworthy ally to free computing.
But for today, it kicks ass.
This could prevent my next phone from being a Pixel.
But it doesn’t make sense for them to do that. They can’t just sell devices promoting them as “unlocked” then brick people’s phones or locking them out so they can’t access their data down the road.
Now, I agree that the long term future of GrapheneOS, if it has one, probably isn’t Google hardware.
Maybe, maybe not. 10th generation Pixels can be supported, so it’ll be a while still. But GrapheneOS is in talks with an OEM and it’s looking likely that they’ll have official support for GrapheneOS for their devices soon enough.
Google could snap its fingers tomorrow and lock down the ability to unlock bootloaders.
only valid point in the post afaict
Well I suppose they could? But then how would that end for them? They sold devices with unlocked bootloaders. Changing that might get them in legal trouble. I’d think if a device is sold unlocked, it’ll remain unlocked.
i think they mean future devices, not previously sold.
either way the thread is 99% invalid criticism of what is afaict one of the best projects of our generation
Before complaining, what have you done? What does your post do?
You post like a PSYOP, like we should give up, like there is no hope, WRONG.
At least they are trying. What you are you doing to defend our software freedom?
Kinda thinking the same thing. Been seeing a lot of posts shitting on graphene this week.
Several of them are from the OP alone. Look at their post history, and at least the last three posts have dedicated a sentence or two on calling GrapheneOS bad.
You are absolutely right. I just saw their history. They really do post like an active psyop.
Whatever you read here, remember, think ‘does this post give us power or take it away?’
Not just GrapheneOS, everything, all the time.
Now you know what to tell them.
Dogshit, braindead take. I’ve been on Graphene for months and had almost no issues. The issues I’ve had have been fixed within days because they come out with software updates damn near weekly. Tell me you’ve never used Graphene without telling me you’ve never used Graphene. You dumbass, its designed to be minimalistic and peacemeal.
This has to be ragebait.
OK, fine… I’ll be honest…
I have had good experiences with it. I have not had problems with apps. Most of my apps I get via Obtaininum. As for the UI, I think it is fine.
I don’t think Google will be able to lock my Pixel’s bootloader, and, if they do, well it is already running the OS. So it shouldn’t be a problem for a while. If at some time GrapheneOS stops being supported I will find something else. I don’t need a guarantee of permanence to find it useful today.
