First of all, to anyone downvoting my Comments about /e/ being a piece of shit, because…

  • they advertise themselves as degoogled, but instead let you connect to Google/Microsoft/etc services

  • replace all the propriatery not at all Secure Services from Google, with… Drumroll please… Propriatery and not at all Secure Services from themselves and actively encourage it.

  • They are For-profit

  • and being MORE out of date then even Fairphones stock roms.

… I told you so. Dm your Instance admin, pay them to send the DB entries of your Downvotes on a Thumb drive (or anything else from SSD to 3.5 inchHDD, depending on your preferences), and shove it up your rectum.

But a TL;DR:

/E/ is not Private. They just switch one bad comany to another one.

  • NotSteve_@piefed.ca
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    I’m kind of out of the loop for everything outside of knowing about Grephene’s existence. Is there a TL;DR or summary somewhere of what all happened? What was he right about?

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      No tldr… I am just going off my memory as a shit poster

      But to address your core request.

      The degoogle privacy community has a running arguement regarding what’s the best way to degoogle for privacy

      Currently there are two options microg which spoofs GPS but still does some connections ie calyxOs approach among other RPMs

      OR

      Sandboxed GPS ie GrapheneOS approach. Where you just run the apps but gos limits what gps can track. You do need a Google account but it is easy to get a dummy.

      As side note the best is gos with NO sandboxed gps but realistically normies joining the movement need GPS capabilities.

      Either one is better than normie phone but if you care about privacy AND security, gos is king.

      The improvements they made to android even gets upstreamed by Google creeps.

      CalyxOS development is spotty. Obviously I support them two, extra options are good and they cover more phones.

      Gos only does pixel, which is problematic but that’s just what can be done currently.

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        Minor nit: you don’t need a Google account even with GPS. I have sandboxed GPS without an account and use aurora store for things I can’t get via obtanium/F-droid.

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          This used to work for me but then they started forcing the play store too and account which then required an account. So I just stopped using GPS all together.

          But thank you for pointing just goes to show experience can be different and people should play around for their set up.

          For me now it is an ideological battle. Fuck Google

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        Ah I see, thanks! It’s really sad that ROM hardware support is so limited these days. I’d really love to run Graphene on S25 hardware :(

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          LineageOS covers a lot of devices but I can NOT recommend in good faith as a personal phone decide.

          It is made in some weird development mode and can’t lock the bootloader.

          Both of these make very insecure if you lose physical control. It is a decent degoogle.

          Sammy is going anti ROM and will prevent people from unlocking Bootloader going forward it seems.

          On personal level, I would advise against focusing on hard ware. I used to be a hardware whore myself. But in 2025 privacy/security should be the defining factor in cell phone decision. I can’t think of anything more personal.

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        Rossmann has only ever said that he no longer feels comfortable using GrapehenOS on his personal device due to Micay’s personal grudge.

        Which was a lie. He kept using GrapheneOS for a long time after that. Even though targeted updates aren’t possible he left his video up with that disinformation anyway.

        Rossmann has never even criticised GrapheneOS itself, only Micay.

        He didn’t have to. All he needed to do was make people think the lead developer was crazy and that the OS isn’t trustworthy. His video has negatively affected GrapheneOS for sure. Still does considering comments like these…

        he is an unhinged lunatic

        and these.

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            Me being a GrapheneOS moderator doesn’t change things. I’m a random person on the internet who was interested in the project and helped out in the community before joining the moderation team. All of the Rossmann stuff happened before I was a moderator.

            I’m a GrapheneOS user and I am a member of the team. If I ever saw anything I had a problem with, I’d jump ship. All people I’ve met that are involved with the project are smart and dedicated. None of them are “lunatics”.

            But since my affiliation with the project makes you think this way, I feel it’s only fair to point out that from where I’m standing I’m the one who’s being reasonable here. You’re the one who seems to have an odd, unwavering support for Rossmann or maybe an odd unwavering dislike for GrapheneOS. What are your affiliations? Why are you defending Rossmann’s harassment? Why are you using such over the top charged language about our team, such as calling us lunatics?