• brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    I think [email protected] doesn’t understand why so many of their posts get mass downvoted, like pointing out this revelation to other instances…

    We. Freaking. KNOW!

    Western fediverse instances know there was a freakin Nazi battalion in Ukraine, and rampant corruption, and other problems. We know ‘the west’ has been, and is, imperialist, hypocritical, genocidal and transactionally shit to other countries. This isn’t /r/conservative with bots preaching on about the virtues of western patriotism in 2025, this is a refuge for deep internet dwellers either watching their countries burn down around them (like me in the US), or, according to polls, barrel headfirst into the same techno-fascist utopias (largely Europe right now).

    Memes like this are pretentious. It’s insulting, and most of all, insensitive.

    How ridiculous would it look if Americans repeatedly pointed out how awful a trading partner China is in the geopolitical space compared to the US? Or if we constantly filled Lemmy with memes about how inclusive and virtuous and definitely-not-racist the American megacorps are compared to, say, North Korea? What if we set Ukraine aside for a sec and started memeing on the crises in Russia’s backyard, while utterly refusing to even acknowledge the dumpster fires in our own?


    …So, yeah.

    Even setting a ton of stuff aside, you’re preaching to the choir, in a really unfun way.

    This meme is also wrong, at least on the top half, because apparently the majority of my country thinks rebadged, redneck/cyberpunk flavored neo-nazism is the way forward :(

    I guess it’d be nice if I had a victim complex big enough to obsess over other countries instead of my own, but I’m sorry, I can barely think over Fox News raging about how white Christians and Donald Trump are victims in the background.

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      1 day ago

      So you know there are nazis in Ukraine and that the US materially supports them and you’re mad that it’s being discussed? Stupid or nazi, if not both

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        I’m sick of finger wagging over what other nations are doing juxtaposed with shameless fawning over the righteousness their own governments.

        I’m sick of obsessions over how awful NATO is for their involvement in Ukraine, from people who turn around, and in the same breath, praise the virtues of yet another post WWII ‘liberation war’, like the Ukraine War will somehow not end in disaster like every. Single. One. Can you even name a post WWII intervention that ended well?

        But noooo, those last hundred interventions were totally different than this one! Yeah, that lines up with historical precedent, sure.

        You have no right to finger wag about westerners living in a bubble. Or intervening in another country.

        And no. I am not a Nazi.

        So Lemmy.ml can either get an ounce of self humility, not a lot, just a little. Or they can take their downvote barrage.

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      There’s fascists in the US government right now, does that justify an invasion of the US? Stupid question, to you of course it does