When having to admit their fault the moderator started looking for arbitrary reasons to ban me. Such as not using the exact terminology of the Amnesty report. Which does not call it genocide.
The moderator is also watching user votes, and calling out people not voting with him.
Can you go into more detail? I know Pug’s had some awful experiences with db0’s instance, but they’re banned and can’t share that, which I find highly suspect
Stop shitstirring. This post is about your shitty behavior, not my mod actions.
My shitty behaviour?
How so? Was the OP not violating the rules?
Or are you admitting that this community isn’t actually about moderator misconduct but instead a way to attack others based on their views?
The shitty behavior was pinging an instance admin in an unrelated thread to accuse them of being a tankie for downvoting a comment. And what’s also shitty imo is claiming that folks who think the whole Uyghur genocide in China is massively overblown by the West are all tankies. It’s entirely possible to believe China is a hugely authoritarian State and also that the Uyghur “genocide” claims are mostly overblown and misrepresented by the West. I’m no China fan, but they certainly aren’t bombing the shit out of the Uyghurs or peppering civilians with grenades dropped from drones, like US-backed Israel is. You guys love the lesser evil argument, so to put it in a way you will understand: many folks think China is the lesser evil compared to the US, and that doesn’t make those folks tankies. It just means they recognise that the list of shitty things the US has done in the past 50 years far, far outweighs the list of shitty things that China has done in the same period.
If you read my comment, you’d know the reason why I pinged, which was to lead up to my complaint about this community. That this community isn’t actually about moderator misconduct but instead a way to attack others based on their views, or in my case, just making shit up about my views despite me clarifying what they are.
When it comes to atrocity, there’s no ‘lesser evil’ or justification or differentiation for it. There’s no excuse at all; that’s why they’re atrocities. I don’t care who they come from, if they hurt people, I don’t like them.
Exactly. So why rage at anarchists when fighting authoritarian states is literally our whole thing? It’s just because we are also highly critical of the US and the Dems in particular, because they are always banging on about being the “lesser evil” like its some sort of gotcha. To be clear, if I haven’t been already, I 100% condemn China’s actions towards the Uyghurs. Is it technically a genocide? Depends what definition you’re working with, but to my mind it meets the definition. Meanwhile the Dems have consistently voting with Trump to keep arming Israel, and there is no sign of them changing their position. So what irks me and others is the double standard. Most Democrat representatives have repeatedly denied Gaza is a genocide, and continue to do so, but I don’t see you banning people who attempt to downplay the role of the US in that genocide as being tankies.
I don’t care about the US. It’s an evil country and a third-world one at that. The world would be a better place if the government were to collapse.
But enough about the US and its shittiness, go back onto the topic of this community and how it conducts itself. Surely you must have a statement regarding the brigading and my criticism of this community?
Well, we agree on that at least.
Anyone can read the previous posts in this community and form their own opinion on that. As a community mod I’m not the arbiter of truth in this community. I have my own opinions and I share them, along with everyone else. I don’t apologise for that. But I’d say in 9/10 cases the community sentiment towards posters is very much aligned with my own. You just seem to be aggrieved that the community has deemed you to be the PTB in this case. It’s clear to me (and obviously to others judging by the comments) that you hate leftists a lot more than the right wingers who frequent your community, who you seem to get along with just fine. And that fact you claim anarchists are tankies tells me all I need to know about your political literacy.
Why are you holding me to a different standard than yourself?
I’m upset that this community isn’t actually about whether a user broke the rules, but instead whether they agree with the views. That’s the key point here. And also your community constantly brigading.
and rightists? There ain’t any rightists on lemmy lol
I don’t use left/right anyway; it’s stupid.
The irony of an anarchist calling me politically illiterate. Regardless, I never called any anarchists tankies, only that your community has been supportive and taken over by them. You even have users in this thread praising Hamas, denying that rapes happened and denying genocides.
Ban was fair. Misunderstanding on my part. I think the disengage rule, while hard to locate for the average newcomer, is a decent idea.
you find it highly suspect that @[email protected], someone that is a compulsive liar, is banned? do you tend to prefer getting information from people that would lie to you?
Do you? You have OP who doesn’t believe in the inhumane treatment of the Uyghurs, Chinese imperialism or even the Holodomor. Should people be banned for lying?
that isn’t what the OP said in any of their posts, you shitwizzle.
You should have a deeper look
I looked deep enough to see that they specifically said China was guilty of human rights abuses. Don’t try to spin shit with me, you’re not nearly clever enough.
And China’s imperialism?
you know very well they agreed China was guilty of that as well.
But they didn’t. They said it was imperialism to support another group.
I’m not banned, and the idea that I’m a compulsive liar is laughable. I guess it hurts that I come with receipts when I make claims?
Lol well you made me laugh.
What, did you find some more sexual assault and genocide to deny? I know that always amuses you.
I was temp-banned. The only awful experience I had was the temp-ban, which was over the admins deciding that downvoting things you disagree with is, apparently, against the rules (when they want it to be).
Wait is that true? They banned you for downvoting?
Downvoting comments I disagree with was considered “downvote trolling”
Can you link the thread so we can read through it?
https://lemmy.world/post/33338615
It’s massive, fair warning.
I’ll give it a read, but I’m a little unsure as to the context going on
I mentioned that I clicked on a user’s profile after seeing them comment because I was interested in what they were up to lately, and that I found it to be mostly bad (unsurprisingly). Things that I read on their profile that I disagreed with and found sufficiently vile to regard as a negative to even be said, I downvoted.
Said user went to the dbzer0 admins to accuse me of ‘downvote trolling’ for this, admitting that I had only downvoted comments I disagreed with. The dbzer0 admins agreed that downvoting comments that one disagrees with (if the person being disagreed with is one of Their’s™ ) is ‘downvote trolling’ and temp-banned me.
Have you thought about posting that to this community? Seems like a good example of PTB