Expensive has never meant good but good usually means expensive. What I’m saying is that people make these comments as if good stuff was replacement by shitty stuff when it hasn’t, they’re just not even considering anything out of their budget…like it would have been
People will complain their $200 IKEA table falls apart but the option to pay a craftsman for a quality table never went away. A good table will outlive you but expect to pay over a grand, though.
No, I addressed that in my other comment as a downside - there used to be ONE option for things but now with so many options, we have to do some research on what is good vs just expensive
that’s just more unnecessary labouring for us to actually get the things we are paying for. more waste of or time and labor for the sake of capitalism.
what are the good fucking things?
why do i have to waste time in this sort of meaningless bullshit to get a measly computer mice that doesn’t double click, isn’t this supposed to be efficient?
This, specifically, has nothing to do with capitalism lol
Competition exists outside of capitalist hellscapes. Shitty craftsmen and shitty goods exist. It always has, there’s just more people making things. You used to only have access to what your local shopkeeper stocked, now you can get stuff from anywhere. You just had to trust them that it was good which it seems you’re assuming was always true.
You have to “waste your time” because you care about having a good quality mouse. My mom uses the shitty $3 mouse than came with her refurbished HP workstation and she has no interest in replacing it.
Picking a (historically) complicated electronic device as an example of how things are worse now certainly was a choice. It’s an increasing niche device, most people don’t even own a desktop.
yes it does lol. isn’t that the entire stated excuse behind the capitalist “free market” and liberalism?
(historically) complicated electronic device
what? computer mice has been a solved problem for decades. the one i got in the early 2000s lasted me 15 years, the subsequent ones never more than a couple without issues despite paying more for them.
the fact i can’t expect something as simple as a motion tracking device with buttons to work perfectly for longer than the warranty period anymore is the entire fucking problem in the first place.
i can exemplify with disposable clothes instead if you think that would represent planned obsolescence better? or all the other garbage that keeps breaking and i keep having to fix or replace?
Ohhh I get it now, you don’t actually have a point to make so you just stop reading after the first line of a comment and downvote.
There are soooo many things about capitalism to shit on but “I have to think about where I spend my money” really isn’t one of them. In any type of society, there will be good products and shitty products. Pretending otherwise is beyond delusional.
i literally quoted and responded to what you had to say.
the free market not doing what its said to do is literally one the main fucking things to criticize about it. this entire post is about having to think and pay way too much about what you buy and still getting disposable stuff.
should i even keep responding to someone who doesn’t want to bother interpreting what i literally just typed out? i don’t think i will bother anymore. have a nice day.
You ignored the rest of what I had to say to make an ignorant comment about the first line
The “free market” is indeed broken but how on earth do you figure it was supposed to lead to top quality goods? The market exists for low, mid, and high quality goods.
There really is nothing more to be said unless you want to explain how a different system would eliminate crappy goods from the marketplace. But I don’t expect you actually have an answer to that.
Expensive has never meant good but good usually means expensive. What I’m saying is that people make these comments as if good stuff was replacement by shitty stuff when it hasn’t, they’re just not even considering anything out of their budget…like it would have been
People will complain their $200 IKEA table falls apart but the option to pay a craftsman for a quality table never went away. A good table will outlive you but expect to pay over a grand, though.
so are we just supposed to guess what is good or not?
No, I addressed that in my other comment as a downside - there used to be ONE option for things but now with so many options, we have to do some research on what is good vs just expensive
that’s just more unnecessary labouring for us to actually get the things we are paying for. more waste of or time and labor for the sake of capitalism.
what are the good fucking things?
why do i have to waste time in this sort of meaningless bullshit to get a measly computer mice that doesn’t double click, isn’t this supposed to be efficient?
This, specifically, has nothing to do with capitalism lol
Competition exists outside of capitalist hellscapes. Shitty craftsmen and shitty goods exist. It always has, there’s just more people making things. You used to only have access to what your local shopkeeper stocked, now you can get stuff from anywhere. You just had to trust them that it was good which it seems you’re assuming was always true.
You have to “waste your time” because you care about having a good quality mouse. My mom uses the shitty $3 mouse than came with her refurbished HP workstation and she has no interest in replacing it.
Picking a (historically) complicated electronic device as an example of how things are worse now certainly was a choice. It’s an increasing niche device, most people don’t even own a desktop.
yes it does lol. isn’t that the entire stated excuse behind the capitalist “free market” and liberalism?
what? computer mice has been a solved problem for decades. the one i got in the early 2000s lasted me 15 years, the subsequent ones never more than a couple without issues despite paying more for them.
the fact i can’t expect something as simple as a motion tracking device with buttons to work perfectly for longer than the warranty period anymore is the entire fucking problem in the first place.
i can exemplify with disposable clothes instead if you think that would represent planned obsolescence better? or all the other garbage that keeps breaking and i keep having to fix or replace?
Ohhh I get it now, you don’t actually have a point to make so you just stop reading after the first line of a comment and downvote.
There are soooo many things about capitalism to shit on but “I have to think about where I spend my money” really isn’t one of them. In any type of society, there will be good products and shitty products. Pretending otherwise is beyond delusional.
i literally quoted and responded to what you had to say.
the free market not doing what its said to do is literally one the main fucking things to criticize about it. this entire post is about having to think and pay way too much about what you buy and still getting disposable stuff.
should i even keep responding to someone who doesn’t want to bother interpreting what i literally just typed out? i don’t think i will bother anymore. have a nice day.
You ignored the rest of what I had to say to make an ignorant comment about the first line
The “free market” is indeed broken but how on earth do you figure it was supposed to lead to top quality goods? The market exists for low, mid, and high quality goods.
There really is nothing more to be said unless you want to explain how a different system would eliminate crappy goods from the marketplace. But I don’t expect you actually have an answer to that.