• Serinus@lemmy.world
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    They very likely would have just went against the primary if he managed to win.

    First you just make shit up.

    That’s how bad shit really was.

    Then you have the gall to say this. It literally wasn’t.

    I’ve voted for Bernie every chance I’ve had. I’ve volunteered for Bernie. But this demonization of establishment Dems only serves the Nazis.

    See also: people who say the Dems have done everything they can to stop the soon to be NYC mayor. Other than self serving Cuomo, who isn’t even a dem anymore, what have they done?

    It’s literally just vote blue, Mamdani or not.

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      First you just make shit up.

      Have you never heard of a hypothetical before?

      Then you have the gall to say this. It literally wasn’t.

      I think you need to read this:

      https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/02/clinton-brazile-hacks-2016-215774/

      But this demonization of establishment Dems only serves the Nazis.

      Look at my profile, I spend a good amount of time stumping for the modern DNC.

      My problem is with neoliberals, because they are what got us into this mess.

      Literally, just vote blue

      No

      No one’s vote is obligated in the general.

      Blindly voting for anyone with a D by their name hasn’t worked out nationally.

      On a national scale we need to encourage everyone to vote in the presidential primary, because it’s actually going to be fair this time.

      If turnout is high. We’ll get someone who breezes thru the general. No one will have to say “blue no matter who” because it’ll be who the voters already want

      If turnout is low, some asshat like Newsom might get it, and we’re fucked if it’s him and a Republican in the general.

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        Blindly voting for anyone with a D by their name hasn’t worked out nationally.

        What is it, 34% of the country that didn’t vote? If we had gotten everyone to vote, it would have been a blowout.

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          If we had gotten everyone to vote, it would have been a blowout.

          If you give voters something they want instead of a douche or a turd sandwich…

          More people are going to vote.

          That’s literally the whole point of what I’m saying.

          Give voters a fair primary and enjoy the easy win in the general.

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            I agree. There’s a hell of a lot of room for more progressive candidates, and I think they can give people things to be excited about instead of being milquetoast.

            My point is

            If you tell people not to vote, fewer people will vote.

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      How in the hell are you going to get Dems to change if you “just vote blue”. That’s how we ended up with Hillary and Hillary 2.0 (Kamala). And no, Givesomefucks is not “just making shit up”, but you’re the one who seems to not know what the fuck they’re talking about. Bernie should have run as an Independent, I believe he would have kicked both their asses in 2016. Instead he rolled over like a good little lapdog and tried to shepherd people back to the Dems. How’d that work out?