• lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com
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    18 hours ago

    Can someone point out the part where this wasn’t voluntary or the guy was held captive & not free to leave or end the voluntary abuse at any time?

    It looks like idiots kink-playing too hard with extra fines to some platform while the morons try to escape accountability.

    Viral compilation threads have shown Pormanove being hit, strangled, and fired at with paintball guns while streaming with Naruto and Safine, whose lawyers claim they hold “no responsibility.”

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      16 hours ago

      Kink playing is ultimately the responsibility of the top, if this was that.

      It’s not, because they disregarded that person’s state of well-being in a continued way.

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      1 day ago

      The company is still at fault for not banning such behavior on their service. Freedom of expression does not mean freedom to be violent and promote violence.

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        16 hours ago

        Violence is fine. What’s not fine is the permanent disfigurement or death of participants and the lack of preventative controls against that.

        In a cage match, a participant would never be ignored long enough to stop breathing, like they did here.

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      17 hours ago

      This comment might provide some insights: https://lemmy.zip/comment/21080783

      Also, IMO, voluntary or not, this goes over the edge, especially on the streaming part. If someone genuinely enjoys this, they can do it in private, and exactly as they like.

      When money and popularity get involved, this prompts more extreme behavior, turning a willing masochist into a victim, and a game into a trap.

      Besides, authorities could have at least checked up on him.

      • lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com
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        16 hours ago

        This comment might provide some insights: https://lemmy.zip/comment/21080783

        Sources for that information should be easy to cite, yet I notice none.

        they can do it in private

        How do we tell real apart from fake performances? Should fake performances be private only when they already aren’t? Seems difficult to police without chilling freedoms.

        Economic coercion needs to be controlled somehow. I guess the question is how to police actual abuse while permitting legal performances like the Jackass franchise of reality, slapstick comedy.