• finitebanjo@piefed.world
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      Are you asking me to respond? If a guy who promotes countries that practice ethnic cleansing today is frothing at the mouth calling me a racist then I must be a real monster for

      *checks notes

      Accurately recounting that the Confederates started the war over slavery.

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          I think they might have mumblemouthed it but you bastards have decided among yourselves that their mispoken statement cannot merely represent an ignorant and misinformed read of history but an intentionally violently racist viewpoint. The screenshotted user was I warrant correct in their historical analysis and absolutely fucking wrong to put words in the thread-OPs mouth, as if earnestly trying to alienate instead of persuade or fact check a damn thing.

          Like yeah, abolition wouldn’t have happened without black people, from freedmen writers to rebelling chattel slaves, advocated for themselves. All the well meaning white people (on average rarer then anyway) wouldn’t have meant much without black people wanting to be free and making it known.

          Why would you go out of your way to read a person’s response in the worst possible way? Maybe I’m just a fukken airhead but I didn’t see any dogwhistle that justified how you lot are speaking to them. You simply decided to tar and feather the fucker for being kind of wrong about labor history. Then you springboarded into a merciless bed of assumptions.

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            oh, cry me a fucking river. people in multiple threads have tried to educate him, and he’s more interested in being a racist piece of shit liberal. if you don’t like that then you and he can stop coming to leftist comms to try and dictate how we speak to people who are ideologically opposed to our existence. the fucking audacity of this caucasity .

            “The White liberal is the worst enemy to America and the worst enemy to the Black man.” — Malcolm X

          • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            Banjo deserves to be mocked as they have had years to learn better. But instead they double down on support of the Diet Fascism party.

            He’s a racist piece of shit who thinks brown people deserve to be mistreated when they break any law, no matter how stupid or purposely racist they are.

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                that’s just seasoning our speech, you twatwaffle. this isn’t .world, we don’t buy that CiViLiTy bullshit here. if you want to be a disgusting racist pile of shit, we’re going to treat you like the filth you are and viciously mock you. you keep coming here, so you obviously like it as much as we do.

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            Genuine question, what makes you think dbzer0/this community is tankie? We’re anarchists, not Marxists and we get into tons of fighting with Hexbear/ml too.

            I saw that in another comment of yours in this thread but nevertheless.

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              They think anyone that would dare disagree with them are either republicans or tankies. Especially when it’s involving pointing out flaws in their logic or something they have no idea about. Like for example how ACA is just Romneycare, which is why gop have no replacement for it

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              _cryptagion happily self identified as one, I’ve also been informed Hexbear is commenting on this post, and it hosts such communities as Libjerk which is Tankies’ defensive reaction to Tankiejerk. You’ll see tons of overlap between openly Tankie rhetoric on ML and Hexbear to here, if you hang out on Flippanarchy long enough you’ll even see people quoting Joseph Stalin and Mao Zedong unironically.

              You claim the two instances fight, but the votes tallies show a different story.

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                at no point have I ever identified as a tankie. I mod the db0 Tankiejerk comm. I am also banned from Hexbear and ML.

                you are just too uneducated to understand that liberals are not leftists, and that there are more than one kind of leftist. the reason your brain cannot fathom this is because there is only one kind of liberal. a conservative one. which is why your party continues to this day to reach “across the aisle” to vote with literal fascists.

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                    you’re reading things that aren’t there. I didn’t even hint that I was a tankie. this is an anarchist comm. on an anarchist server. your insistence that we are tankies is your uneducated problem, not ours.

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                _cryptagion happily self identified as one

                I’ve never seen this. Can you provide a link?

                I’ve also been informed Hexbear is commenting on this post

                Yes, that’s how federation works. Feddit.uk isn’t tankie for federating with hexbear either, so idk what the point here is.

                and it hosts such communities as Libjerk which is Tankies’ defensive reaction to Tankiejerk

                A) you realize we have our own tankie jerk community on dbzer0, modded by _cryptagion? That’s why I’m hesitant to believe crypt claimed himself to be a tankie.

                B) leftists are opposed to liberalism, it makes sense why this would exist.

                You’ll see tons of overlap between openly Tankie rhetoric on ML and Hexbear to here

                Such as? I’m genuinely curious.

                if you hang out on Flippanarchy long enough you’ll even see people quoting Joseph Stalin and Mao Zedong unironically.

                I’m gonna need a link to that, chief.

                By the way, what vote tally? You mean upvotes/downvotes? If so, they’re not even displaying tankie rhetoric here, just basic stuff that many leftists, even anti-tankie ones, agree with.

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                    It’s true, upvotes only.

                    Also neither us nor lemmygrad have a libjerk comm I’m aware of, not sure where they’re getting that.

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                  Oh look, you get a cameo appearance lol

                  By the way, what vote tally? You mean upvotes/downvotes? If so, they’re not even displaying tankie rhetoric here, just basic stuff that many leftists, even anti-tankie ones, agree with.

                  Try it for yourself, post a few things critical of the CCP and Russia and see what happens.

                  • 𝔽𝕩𝕠𝕞𝕥@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                    Oh look, you get a cameo appearance lo

                    Cheese 😁

                    Try it for yourself, post a few things critical of the CCP and Russia and see what happens.

                    ??? What are you answering lol, that has absolutely nothing to do with my question, but sure. Fuck Russia and fuck the CCP. There lol

                    I like how you didn’t answer a single question because you know you’re making up pure bullshit.

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                    nothing. that’s what happens. the head admin of this instance regularly posts things critical of tankies. nobody has ever been banned from dbzer0 for being critical of the CCP or Russia.

                    putin is an authoritarian, imperialist despot who should be dragged from the kremlin and shot. the tankies on ML and hexbear are nothing more than useful idiots. I don’t care who disagrees with that. now watch me not get banned for it.

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                if you hang out on Flippanarchy long enough you’ll even see people quoting Joseph Stalin and Mao Zedong unironically.

                Proof?

                You claim the two instances fight, but the votes tallies show a different story.

                If you ignore all the times Hexbear brigades us for calling out Stalin and Mao, and mock us for not wanting to support an authoritarian capitalist nation pretending to be socialist, then maybe.