I think Trump is going to rumble about withdrawing, but I doubt it would actually happen. The US wants to be able to swat down any membership applications that they don’t like. That whole “unanimous decision” thing means the US can stonewall potential new members if they want, the same way Hungary has done for Sweden.
Trump does what Putin wants. And Putin wants the NATO to fall apart. This is not the usual TACO stuff. If it was, then Trump would threaten the other members at least once per week to withdraw which is not the case.
It served mostly US interests. Without the US, the NATO will be extremely weak. So weak that populists will say “Why are we spending so much money on our military budget to keep up with NATO standards and exercises if we don’t have a chance in case of an attack anyway? Why don’t we spend all that money on something better instead and just negotiate with [insert aggressor]?”. Just look at the political landscape of EU countries. Look at extremist parties left and right. They’re already trying to widen the cracks. It will only take a slight breeze to make the whole thing fall apart after the US left. The NATO is done.
I wouldn’t be surprised if this was among the topics discussed during the recent meeting between Trump and Putin. I expect there is already a plan and timeframe.
Sales talk. With Ukraine (and other parts of Europe) being sold to Putin. I guess that’s why Leavitt looked ashen afterwards. Because she understands the consequences of that deal.
Who knows, maybe NATO’ll update to the modern era after this. Maybe.
I don’t think the NATO will exist for much longer. I expect the US withdrawing soon, causing a chain reaction.
I think Trump is going to rumble about withdrawing, but I doubt it would actually happen. The US wants to be able to swat down any membership applications that they don’t like. That whole “unanimous decision” thing means the US can stonewall potential new members if they want, the same way Hungary has done for Sweden.
Trump does what Putin wants. And Putin wants the NATO to fall apart. This is not the usual TACO stuff. If it was, then Trump would threaten the other members at least once per week to withdraw which is not the case.
So nato is only to serve usa interest? If not there is no reason why nato should dissolve because thr usa withdrawal
Step away from the pipe, kid.
It served mostly US interests. Without the US, the NATO will be extremely weak. So weak that populists will say “Why are we spending so much money on our military budget to keep up with NATO standards and exercises if we don’t have a chance in case of an attack anyway? Why don’t we spend all that money on something better instead and just negotiate with [insert aggressor]?”. Just look at the political landscape of EU countries. Look at extremist parties left and right. They’re already trying to widen the cracks. It will only take a slight breeze to make the whole thing fall apart after the US left. The NATO is done.
It’s a race to the salted Earth bottom, for sure.
I wouldn’t be surprised if this was among the topics discussed during the recent meeting between Trump and Putin. I expect there is already a plan and timeframe.
Discussed? That’s generous.
Sales talk. With Ukraine (and other parts of Europe) being sold to Putin. I guess that’s why Leavitt looked ashen afterwards. Because she understands the consequences of that deal.
the moment you see karoline leavitt stop lying, and her cross not increasing in size, its a red flag.
She keeps lying but she’s not as comfortable about it as Trump. She’s a different type of evil.
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Probably not, at least not while conservatives hold power in allied countries.
FTFY