I’ve got a friend trying to move from the United States to England to escape our current shit show, and I’ve been telling him that England tends to do what America does, just with a posh accent to give it an air of legitimacy.
They’ve got better Healthcare (for now). Other than that, yeah I don’t think they’re doing much better. In a lot of ways they’re worse. It could be argued either way which is worse, depending on your opinions on a few things.
oh also went back to the States last week and was appalled that a pint can cost upwards of $10 when a decade ago it was only $6 (London prices have stayed around £6-7). throw on the whole tip racketeering insanity and I’d much rather be in England.
What Americans think of as a British accent is an accent that does in fact not exist. Literally no one speaks like that, it’s just playing into the stereotype at this point.
But we can’t make movies with genuine accents because Americans wouldn’t be able to understand it.
You’re both selling them short. The UK is awful in ways that the Americans can only aspire to. They are each doing their own horrible things, just trading a bit of horrible culture now and then.
The UK is awful in ways that the Americans can only aspire to
Which ones are those? I struggle to come up with something that US is doing better than the UK. The whole freedom of speech issue might be the one where at least it’s not that obvious, but I would argue UK is just more upfront about it, and even though more topics are explicitly forbidden in the UK, you wouldn’t be dissapeared from the streets by an unmarked van about it, so I would say it’s still better.
You clearly haven’t been paying attention. Both have a ton of issues. You could argue either is worse, but I don’t think anyone watching would say they aren’t on similar paths. The UK in particular has a lot of holdover issues from never fully reforming their government and only slowly transforming from monarchy to constitutional Republic, and still carrying all the baggage, like the house of lords for example.
Not arguing with that. I’m struggling to find something that is worse in the UK than in US right now, that’s it, I’m comparing the two countries right now. Whatever holdover issues UK has, US has it worse as far as I can see.
Well until quite recently, the UK was quite famously blazing the trail towards isolationism by shooting themselves in the foot with Brexit. The political gong show that followed was, I’m sure, absolutely humiliating. Surveillance culture in the UK is way, way ahead of almost any other Western democracy. I admit it’s harder to find things in the last few years that the UK is worse at, but examples still exist.
I think he is saying they are following the same path, just a few steps behind. So if the US is running over a cliff, the UK will probably consider that a blazed trail and head in that direction too.
So yeah, the US sped up. Doesn’t mean the UK isn’t trying to follow.
Fancy arresting people for committing a crime. What an insane state of affairs we live in, next thing you’ll tell me we’re not allowed to murder people
Nah. It’s not great here but that’s like leaving the frying pan and jumping into a volcano that’s actively erupting. ICE aren’t just racist, they get off on hurting people and they’re really not bothered who they are.
In some ways they’re very progressive. They abduct and abuse everyone equally.
I’ve got a friend trying to move from the United States to England to escape our current shit show, and I’ve been telling him that England tends to do what America does, just with a posh accent to give it an air of legitimacy.
They’ve got better Healthcare (for now). Other than that, yeah I don’t think they’re doing much better. In a lot of ways they’re worse. It could be argued either way which is worse, depending on your opinions on a few things.
eh, we’ve got pubs and chips.
oh also went back to the States last week and was appalled that a pint can cost upwards of $10 when a decade ago it was only $6 (London prices have stayed around £6-7). throw on the whole tip racketeering insanity and I’d much rather be in England.
If you think they do it with a posh accent you’ve not been to England lol
in US english posh is a synonym for british
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That doesn’t scan. Posh Spice would by association be British Spice, and everyone knows that doesn’t exist
What Americans think of as a British accent is an accent that does in fact not exist. Literally no one speaks like that, it’s just playing into the stereotype at this point.
But we can’t make movies with genuine accents because Americans wouldn’t be able to understand it.
I’m mainly thinking of Tony Blair making the same case for invading Iraq that George W. Bush was, just with the accent.
I’m mainly thinking of marshmallows.
Didn’t /u/flyingsquid move to England? He hasn’t posted in 6 months :o
Yeah, he moved into the badlands near Manchester. Ever seen the movie “The hills have eyes”? Its like that up there.
Oooh, like Hollywood?
Nowhere is truly safe at this point. Better the devil you know than the devil you don’t.
I’m currently working out moving to Jamaica. Got a friend there to help, but he says it ain’t all sunshine and cheap pot like the movies.
I’m not LGBT but I usually use that as a guideline of “is this a good place to be?”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBTQ_rights_in_Jamaica
And its not looking great.
Pick somewhere else.
Super simple and smart way to sort places that care about human rights. Thanks for sharing.
At a certain time (around 2000) I’d count the number of women/men outside (like 20 to 40 year olds), very telling about the insecurity in a city.
Oh, as not great as they are, they aren’t even close to being as bad as US.
You’re both selling them short. The UK is awful in ways that the Americans can only aspire to. They are each doing their own horrible things, just trading a bit of horrible culture now and then.
Which ones are those? I struggle to come up with something that US is doing better than the UK. The whole freedom of speech issue might be the one where at least it’s not that obvious, but I would argue UK is just more upfront about it, and even though more topics are explicitly forbidden in the UK, you wouldn’t be dissapeared from the streets by an unmarked van about it, so I would say it’s still better.
You clearly haven’t been paying attention. Both have a ton of issues. You could argue either is worse, but I don’t think anyone watching would say they aren’t on similar paths. The UK in particular has a lot of holdover issues from never fully reforming their government and only slowly transforming from monarchy to constitutional Republic, and still carrying all the baggage, like the house of lords for example.
Not arguing with that. I’m struggling to find something that is worse in the UK than in US right now, that’s it, I’m comparing the two countries right now. Whatever holdover issues UK has, US has it worse as far as I can see.
Well until quite recently, the UK was quite famously blazing the trail towards isolationism by shooting themselves in the foot with Brexit. The political gong show that followed was, I’m sure, absolutely humiliating. Surveillance culture in the UK is way, way ahead of almost any other Western democracy. I admit it’s harder to find things in the last few years that the UK is worse at, but examples still exist.
Whatever isolationism brexit highlighted, can’t be worse than whatever US is doing right now.
Cope harder. UK is in the fast lane to authoritarianism alongside the US.
Are you seeing it as some kind of race where you’re winning and I’m losing? What should I cope with?
Modern history, maybe not, but historically, the British Empire was the worst.
Historically no one was strictly speaking good.
I think he is saying they are following the same path, just a few steps behind. So if the US is running over a cliff, the UK will probably consider that a blazed trail and head in that direction too.
So yeah, the US sped up. Doesn’t mean the UK isn’t trying to follow.
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Fancy arresting people for committing a crime. What an insane state of affairs we live in, next thing you’ll tell me we’re not allowed to murder people
It’s sexual harassment you idiot
Yes, sexual harassment is a crime.
Tragic take.
At this point, leaving England for America is the saner choice…
I mean unless you’re brown, then ICE will just lock you away if you try
I don’t know, we locked up an extremely white new Zealander for 3 weeks at the border recently…
And several white Canadians. There are likely dozens more locked in captivity that the media hasn’t reported on.
And don’t forget when the US coast card kidnapped a Canadian fisherman from Canadian waters and then jailed him in the US.
They drove across the border to arrest a Quebec fisherman and then sunk his boat and kidnapped him and detained him. Americans are terrorists.
Nah. It’s not great here but that’s like leaving the frying pan and jumping into a volcano that’s actively erupting. ICE aren’t just racist, they get off on hurting people and they’re really not bothered who they are.
In some ways they’re very progressive. They abduct and abuse everyone equally.
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