• sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    How to be a neurotypical:

    1 - Have a somewhat societally common and shared, but also very unique and specific to yourself/particular social group, way of understanding and projecting tone, microexpressions, vocabulary choices, speech cadence, etc, with many distinct or uncommon idiosyncrasies.

    2 - Assume everyone else on the planet has essentially the exact same way of seeing and performing all this as you do.

    3 - Confidently interperet social cues incorrectly considerably more often than Autists, but be blissfully unaware of this, pathologize and shame the idea of asking for clarity and communicating in a direct, precise, and less ambiguous way.

    … Autistic people consciously learn, process and evaluate how social cues actually work, and Autistic people also very much like logically consistent things that are not contradictory… so they are more likely to either be very rigid with one way of understanding something, or to.ask questions to clarify things that are not actually clear, consistent, universal, precise.

    It thus takes them longer to learn how to adaquetly perform all this, aka, Masking.

    Neurotypicals on the other hand learn, process and evaluate and perform social cues much more unconsciously, and they are far more likely to just assume their interpretation is correct, that their projected behaviors convey exactly what they think they do… despite the fact that if you sit a bunch of them down, they will all describe significant differences between their ways of understanding and performing mannerisms.

    Essentially, they’re bullshitting it, but there are more bullshitters than non bullshitters, so bullshitting is the norm.

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      5 hours ago

      I was just having some fun by pointing out that women aren’t the only mythical creature whose signals are hard to read.

      I do agree with your last point thoroughly, bullshitters do be bullshittin’ it. A lot. Too much I would say.

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        4 hours ago

        See my other wall of text reply to your other comment, lol, I could go on for days with anecdotes of esoteric bs I’ve seen NT men do to signal things to other men and women, I totally agree this isn’t a sex/gender thing, its a neurotype thing that manifests differently in different sexes/genders.

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          I tend to ignore terms like neurotypical and neurodiverse because I just view everyone as neurodiverse. And if everyone is neurodiverse, then nobody is neurodiverse. That just means to me that people are people. Some more insecure than others.

          I also think that everyone is gay. Which means I personally don’t really view anyone as gay, just people doing normal people things no matter who they love. Some people just happen to be insecure as fuck about loving another person.

          What I do see are a lot of insecure people attempting to set and enforce normal behaviour because they are afraid of being weird while ignoring the fact that being alive is the most weird and pointless experience ever.

          Gotta have a little fun with the weird, pointlessness of existence, that’s what can make life beautiful and interesting :)

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            42 minutes ago

            Well I disagree strongly with your unorthodox definitions of neurotypical, neurodiverse and gay…

            But I do generally agree that a lot of people and social norms stem from insecurity, an inability or unwillingness to actually examine things in detail, with consistency, to hold your own self or group to the standards you hold others to.

            We also seem to have the same absurdist take on reality and meaning, so laugh and dance and do backflips as you push that boulder up that hill, hahah!