Both protocols are open source.
At can exist without bluesky, but most people are on it. I wouldn’t say it’s “hard connected” to it.
Also: there are various implementations of Atproto.
Ive seen many times where the company behind a tech goes under and the tech suffers because of it. And AT seems to be hard connected to Bluesky given the wikipedia article and the codebase that I have seen. But having competing services is not necessarily a bad thing. It can mean they can both learn from one another (like yarn and npm did a long time ago) and we get a better service. I dont necessarily want AT to fail, but I do want them to become MUCH more distant to Bluesky.
And they have the most risk to become Enshittied given the crypto/investors/millionaires involved with BlueSky.
Ill still be supporting AP with my development time since its easier for me to stand up and work with.
If mastodon disappeared tomorrow it would be chaos. Loads of servers would shut down, and the rest would switch to a fork.
It would do irreapable damage to the fediverse, since mastodon basically controls the spec (the w3 thing is more of a collection of suggestions).
How can mastodon disappear? By definition, its on open platforms and self hosted solutions. It cant. And we are using the spec to talk right now.
And as a Dev AT really isn’t easier to work with. I’ve tried hooking it up multiple times and while I can do it, its such a pain. And debug is pretty terrible experience. But its a an opinion on both sides.
You seem very invested in the protocol. Why if I may ask?
Have you built anything on AP? It’s a pain. A poorly documented headache inducing pain.
I didn’t say mastodon would disappear, I said it would cause irreparable damage to the network. Bluesky/atproto won’t disappear without Bluesky PBC, but it would cause irreparable damage to the network.
Obviously mastodon is in a better position for this to happen.
I’m not really invested in the protocol, I prefer AP honestly, but everyone here is annoyingly elitest about the fediverse.
Both protocols are open source.
At can exist without bluesky, but most people are on it. I wouldn’t say it’s “hard connected” to it.
Also: there are various implementations of Atproto.
Lets agree to disagree.
Ive seen many times where the company behind a tech goes under and the tech suffers because of it. And AT seems to be hard connected to Bluesky given the wikipedia article and the codebase that I have seen. But having competing services is not necessarily a bad thing. It can mean they can both learn from one another (like yarn and npm did a long time ago) and we get a better service. I dont necessarily want AT to fail, but I do want them to become MUCH more distant to Bluesky.
And they have the most risk to become Enshittied given the crypto/investors/millionaires involved with BlueSky.
Ill still be supporting AP with my development time since its easier for me to stand up and work with.
If mastodon disappeared tomorrow it would be chaos. Loads of servers would shut down, and the rest would switch to a fork.
It would do irreapable damage to the fediverse, since mastodon basically controls the spec (the w3 thing is more of a collection of suggestions).
AT is infinietly easier to work with as well.
Again as a Dev, I have to disagree.
How can mastodon disappear? By definition, its on open platforms and self hosted solutions. It cant. And we are using the spec to talk right now.
And as a Dev AT really isn’t easier to work with. I’ve tried hooking it up multiple times and while I can do it, its such a pain. And debug is pretty terrible experience. But its a an opinion on both sides.
You seem very invested in the protocol. Why if I may ask?
Have you built anything on AP? It’s a pain. A poorly documented headache inducing pain.
I didn’t say mastodon would disappear, I said it would cause irreparable damage to the network. Bluesky/atproto won’t disappear without Bluesky PBC, but it would cause irreparable damage to the network.
Obviously mastodon is in a better position for this to happen.
I’m not really invested in the protocol, I prefer AP honestly, but everyone here is annoyingly elitest about the fediverse.
Yep! Your using it now ;) at least a very little bit if your URL is correct.
A little bit of what? sorry, this makes no sense to me.
Lemmy.
Oh, right.