• bl4ckeagle@lemmy.world
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      Yea like raping and killing innocent people on a festival. I would never say that its ok what Israel is doing. Its horrible.

      But comparing Hamas with Ukraine is more than stupid, especially Ukraine didn’t attack russia.

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        What Isreal has been doing to the palistinians for several decades :

        • Ethnic cleansing.
        • Stealing their land and demolishing their houses to put fucking settlers.
        • HATE CRIMES
        • a genocide every few years
        • bombing civilians targeting civilians, schools and hospitals

        I bet the freaking party was on fucking stolen land too.

        Freedom to palestine.

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          Sorry not playing your stupid game of who is worse and whataboutism

          Both are doing horrible things to people. We should highlight each of those. If you think one action justify the other, you will get in a vicious circle And we should fight for human rights, not against each other.

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            Hamas are fighting for their freedom. They’re killing civilians because Isreal has been doing it for decades and been cheered for it. Massacre can go both ways.

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                It’s called fight for freedom. The fuck are they supposed to do ? accept being massacre , just wait for the next bomb to kill their entire family ? Wtf ?

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                  That’s a very difficult question to answer but they’re doing it your way and now there’s just more massacre on both sides with seemingly no end in sight. Is it really freedom if everyone is dead?

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                    Have you ever read about any colonized country ? The colonizers commited the most heinous acts to the natives and when they inevitably insurge they’d massacre them. These countries are free because they fought until they become free. Death is inevitable until freedom is gained.

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              that’s a kindergarten level of doing things. “uuuuuuugh you did that to me imma do the same for you uuuuuuugh”. that’s straight up pathetic.

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              Your argumentation is pretty shortened. Its the same argument if somebody say, Israel is fighting for its freedom after anti semitic movements and nazism in central and eastern europe.

              There are no rights, when it comes to harming innocent civilians.

              Edit: On both sides of course, same.goes for the army of Israel and not helping civilians.

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                Isreal is killing civilians deliberately to punish them for their fight freedom. Colonizers in the past used this tactic with every country they colonized. The colonizer must not feel safe in the land he’s stealing. The colonizer need to fucking leave.

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              Better start another war to remove them. That’ll work. Even if that were true it ignores the reality it’s there now.

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                Earth is dying, ressources depleting and temperature are rising. Do you expect a bright future ahead ? By 2050, the Middle East will have unbearable heat waves and it will be getting worse from there. It’s there now , yes, but doubt it’ll be there in the next century. Most humanity either, but that’s a bonus.

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      A terrorist attack that targeted civilians exclusively and subsequently slowly killing hostages while using them for propaganda videos and shooting at fleeing Palestinians is not “fighting for freedom”.

      Educate yourself on the entire conflict before you publicly support terrorism.

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        Don’t worry i read the long list of Israel crimes, saw enough video,images of what’s Israel has done to Palestinians to be well educated. At least enough that you’re bullshit pro Isreal propaganda doesn’t work.

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      a ukrainian here.

      shut the fuck up. you just compared us to fucking terrorists. that’s fucking disgusting. what’s happening in israel has no shit to do with us.

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        Yeah, the fact that your president sided with the colonizer was the most ironic shit ever . You’re fight for freedom is a terrorist act to Russia but i don’t side with a colonizer ever.

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              i’m not defending anything, i have no knowledge of the situation in israel and am not qualified to talk about the good and bad, but i’ve seen what hamas did, and i see that as a terrorism. and i will not let the comparison of us and hamas slide.

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                I seen what Isreal did is doing and are planning to continue doing and they’re worst than even fucking WW2 Germany.